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2020年07月27日 21点07分
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虽然独特-
楼主
The Meaning of the Album
We didn’t talk about it at first. It was only after writing six or seven songs, basically when I thought my writing was done, when we got on the phone and said, “OK, I think we’re making an album. I have these six other ideas that I love with Jack [Antonoff] that we’ve already done, and I think what we’ve done fits really well with them.” It’s sort of these narratives, these folkloric songs, with characters that interweave and are written from different perspectives. She had a vision, and it was connecting back in some way to the folk tradition, but obviously not entirely sonically. It’s more about the narrative aspect of it.
I think it’s this sort of nostalgia and wistfulness that is in a lot of the songs. A lot of them have this kind of longing for looking back on things that have happened in your life, in your friend’s life, or another loved one’s life, and the kind of storytelling around that. That was clear to her. But then we kept going, and more and more songs happened.
It was a very organic process where [meaning] wasn’t something that we really discussed. It just kind of would happen where she would dive back into the folder and find other things that were inspiring. Or she and William Bowery would write “exile,” and then that happened. There were different stages of the process.
关于专辑的含义：一开始没讨论，是写了六七首，Aaron觉得自己的部分差不多完成了的时候，某次电话里泰勒丝表示：我觉得我们是在做一张专辑了，我跟Jack之前已经做好了6首歌很适合放一起。这张专辑是这些folklore式的，从不同角度写出歌曲。她对整个专辑有一张蓝图，这对民谣的传统是一种回归，但显然不全是制作层面的，更多是文本意义上。
很多歌曲都有怀旧和怀想的色彩，回顾你的、朋友的或者所爱之人的往事，以及围绕他们叙述。我们就一直这么做下去，一首有一首歌曲做出来了。
是一个很自然的过程，我们没怎么真正讨论“含义”这回事。有时就是她到我的文件夹里寻找灵感，或者她和William Bowery先把歌写好这种形式(exile)。
2020年07月27日 21点07分
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We didn’t talk about it at first. It was only after writing six or seven songs, basically when I thought my writing was done, when we got on the phone and said, “OK, I think we’re making an album. I have these six other ideas that I love with Jack [Antonoff] that we’ve already done, and I think what we’ve done fits really well with them.” It’s sort of these narratives, these folkloric songs, with characters that interweave and are written from different perspectives. She had a vision, and it was connecting back in some way to the folk tradition, but obviously not entirely sonically. It’s more about the narrative aspect of it.
I think it’s this sort of nostalgia and wistfulness that is in a lot of the songs. A lot of them have this kind of longing for looking back on things that have happened in your life, in your friend’s life, or another loved one’s life, and the kind of storytelling around that. That was clear to her. But then we kept going, and more and more songs happened.
It was a very organic process where [meaning] wasn’t something that we really discussed. It just kind of would happen where she would dive back into the folder and find other things that were inspiring. Or she and William Bowery would write “exile,” and then that happened. There were different stages of the process.
关于专辑的含义：一开始没讨论，是写了六七首，Aaron觉得自己的部分差不多完成了的时候，某次电话里泰勒丝表示：我觉得我们是在做一张专辑了，我跟Jack之前已经做好了6首歌很适合放一起。这张专辑是这些folklore式的，从不同角度写出歌曲。她对整个专辑有一张蓝图，这对民谣的传统是一种回归，但显然不全是制作层面的，更多是文本意义上。
很多歌曲都有怀旧和怀想的色彩，回顾你的、朋友的或者所爱之人的往事，以及围绕他们叙述。我们就一直这么做下去，一首有一首歌曲做出来了。
是一个很自然的过程，我们没怎么真正讨论“含义”这回事。有时就是她到我的文件夹里寻找灵感，或者她和William Bowery先把歌写好这种形式(exile)。
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William bowery
2020年07月28日 05点07分
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虽然独特-
楼主
“exile” (ft. Bon Iver)
Taylor and William Bowery, the singer-songwriter, wrote that song initially together and sent it to me as a sort of a rough demo where Taylor was singing both the male and female parts. It’s supposed to be a dialogue between two lovers. I interpreted that and built the song, played the piano, and built around that template. We recorded Taylor’s vocals with her singing her parts but also the male parts.
We talked a lot about who she thought would be perfect to sing, and we kept coming back to Justin [Vernon]. Obviously, he’s a dear friend of mine and collaborator. I said, “Well, if he’s inspired by the song, he’ll do it, and if not, he won’t.” I sent it to him and said, “No pressure at all, literally no pressure, but how do you feel about this?” He said, “Wow.” He wrote some parts into it also, and we went back and forth a little bit, but it felt like an incredibly natural and safe collaboration between friends. It didn’t feel like getting a guest star or whatever. It was just like, well, we’re working on something, and obviously he’s crazy talented, but it just felt right. I think they both put so much raw emotion into it. It’s like a surface bubbling. It’s believable, you know? You believe that they’re having this intense dialogue.
With other people I had to be secretive, but with Justin, because he was going to sing, I actually did send him a version of the song with her vocals and told him what I was up to. He was like, “Whoa! Awesome!” But he’s been involved in so many big collaborative things that he wasn’t interested in it from that point of view. It’s more because he loved the song and he thought he could do something with it that would add something.
泰勒丝和William先写好歌，并且她同时唱男女声部分，然后把demo发给Aaron。他围绕demo来编曲，弹钢琴，录音泰勒丝同时唱两人的版本。两人讨论了很久谁来唱男声最好，最后还是落到了Justin。Aaron表示要看Justin喜欢不喜欢，喜欢他才会做的。Aaron发录好的给他，问他觉得怎么样，不要有压力。他表示Wow，来回修改了一部分。歌曲不像是请来以为guest star，而是朋友之间自然安全的合作。
跟其他合作的人(专辑)得保密，但跟Justin，Aaron还是说了(是Taylor Swift的专辑)，Justin: Wow, awesome!..........
2020年07月27日 22点07分
16
Taylor and William Bowery, the singer-songwriter, wrote that song initially together and sent it to me as a sort of a rough demo where Taylor was singing both the male and female parts. It’s supposed to be a dialogue between two lovers. I interpreted that and built the song, played the piano, and built around that template. We recorded Taylor’s vocals with her singing her parts but also the male parts.
We talked a lot about who she thought would be perfect to sing, and we kept coming back to Justin [Vernon]. Obviously, he’s a dear friend of mine and collaborator. I said, “Well, if he’s inspired by the song, he’ll do it, and if not, he won’t.” I sent it to him and said, “No pressure at all, literally no pressure, but how do you feel about this?” He said, “Wow.” He wrote some parts into it also, and we went back and forth a little bit, but it felt like an incredibly natural and safe collaboration between friends. It didn’t feel like getting a guest star or whatever. It was just like, well, we’re working on something, and obviously he’s crazy talented, but it just felt right. I think they both put so much raw emotion into it. It’s like a surface bubbling. It’s believable, you know? You believe that they’re having this intense dialogue.
With other people I had to be secretive, but with Justin, because he was going to sing, I actually did send him a version of the song with her vocals and told him what I was up to. He was like, “Whoa! Awesome!” But he’s been involved in so many big collaborative things that he wasn’t interested in it from that point of view. It’s more because he loved the song and he thought he could do something with it that would add something.
泰勒丝和William先写好歌，并且她同时唱男女声部分，然后把demo发给Aaron。他围绕demo来编曲，弹钢琴，录音泰勒丝同时唱两人的版本。两人讨论了很久谁来唱男声最好，最后还是落到了Justin。Aaron表示要看Justin喜欢不喜欢，喜欢他才会做的。Aaron发录好的给他，问他觉得怎么样，不要有压力。他表示Wow，来回修改了一部分。歌曲不像是请来以为guest star，而是朋友之间自然安全的合作。
跟其他合作的人(专辑)得保密，但跟Justin，Aaron还是说了(是Taylor Swift的专辑)，Justin: Wow, awesome!..........
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level 15
虽然独特-
楼主
“my tears ricochet”
This is one of my absolute favorite songs on the record. I think it’s a brilliant composition, and Taylor’s words, the way her voice sounds and how this song feels, are, to me, one of the critical pieces. It’s lodged in my brain. That’s also very important to Taylor and Jack. It’s like a beacon for this record.
(这首是Jack制作的，Aaron说的是自己的解读和感受，后面也一样)Aaron最喜欢的之一，作曲很棒，泰勒丝的歌词，她的声音，歌曲给人的感觉，都很好，已经刻在他脑海里
2020年07月27日 22点07分
18
This is one of my absolute favorite songs on the record. I think it’s a brilliant composition, and Taylor’s words, the way her voice sounds and how this song feels, are, to me, one of the critical pieces. It’s lodged in my brain. That’s also very important to Taylor and Jack. It’s like a beacon for this record.
(这首是Jack制作的，Aaron说的是自己的解读和感受，后面也一样)Aaron最喜欢的之一，作曲很棒，泰勒丝的歌词，她的声音，歌曲给人的感觉，都很好，已经刻在他脑海里
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2020年07月28日 01点07分
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虽然独特-
楼主
“seven”
This is the second song we wrote. It’s kind of looking back at childhood and those childhood feelings, recounting memories and memorializing them. It’s this beautiful folk song. It has one of the most important lines on the record: “And just like a folk song, our love will be passed on.” That’s what this album is doing. It’s passing down. It’s memorializing love, childhood, and memories. It’s a folkloric way of processing.
他们写的第二首歌，回顾童年往事，是一首美丽的民谣。And just like a folk song, our love will be passed on是整张专辑最重要的歌词之一，它在传递，纪念爱、童年和记忆，是很folklore的处理方式。
2020年07月27日 22点07分
21
This is the second song we wrote. It’s kind of looking back at childhood and those childhood feelings, recounting memories and memorializing them. It’s this beautiful folk song. It has one of the most important lines on the record: “And just like a folk song, our love will be passed on.” That’s what this album is doing. It’s passing down. It’s memorializing love, childhood, and memories. It’s a folkloric way of processing.
他们写的第二首歌，回顾童年往事，是一首美丽的民谣。And just like a folk song, our love will be passed on是整张专辑最重要的歌词之一，它在传递，纪念爱、童年和记忆，是很folklore的处理方式。
