很长，我要占很多很多楼。
我说“完”之前请不要插楼，我希望它是完整的，谢谢！
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:26

PD Kim Sang Ho
导演金相浩的采访
[玉米注：这篇采访是我在一个韩国娱乐的英文网站上看到的，我看到的时候很兴奋，读了一点觉得不错可以跟大家分享就开始翻译，根本也没看完。翻了挺多了之后发现怎么还有，后来一拖到底才看到原来是这么长的一篇采访，悔的我啊。。。这篇东西真的太太太长了，既然开始了就继续吧，断断续续花了3、4个晚上翻的，不过还是跳掉了一些我不大感兴趣的内容，英文的部分都贴出来，有兴趣的可以看。我找了些图配上。]
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:26

Kim Sang Ho PD
Born 1971
Seoul University, German language and literature studies, class of 90
Entered as producer in MBC’s 1997 round of applications
Currently part of MBC’s Drama Department
Miniseries “Fantasy Couple” 2006
Miniseries “Secret Lovers” 2005
Best Theater “Loveholic Project” 2005
Best Theater “Come in, Ddukbokki” 2004
Best Theater “My Brother Has Returned” 2004
金相浩导演
生于1971年
首尔大学，德语语言文学研究，90级
1997年申请进入MBC作制片人
目前MBC戏剧部一员
短剧《梦幻情侣》2006年
短剧《秘密男女》2005年
最佳剧场《爱情狂计划》2005年
最佳剧场《请进，Ddukbokki》2004年
最佳剧场《哥哥回来了》2004年
[玉米注：导演和瑟瑟在一起，瑟笑得很甜，我想他们关系应该很不错。后面采访里导演也提到很多关于瑟的、关于桑实的，他对桑实这角色倾注了很多。]
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:27


How did this unique fantasy romance come to life?
梦幻浪漫爱情如何照进现实？
INTERVIEWER: Although the program’s ratings weren’t exceptionally high, the internet reaction was considerable. There was a tremendous amount written in the Fantasy Couple gallery of DC Inside, did you see?
DIR. KIM SANG HO: I even chatted there. I went in with a nickname, and people didn’t believe me and were asking for verification (from site staff or actors whose identities had been officially confirmed), so I made a note on cyworld. Those people asked for spoilers not to be released, but there were slight hints like “It will probably snow in Namhae, right?” (Laughs)
[玉米注：这一段是谈论《梦幻》的反响的。]
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:28

-In the director’s cut of the DVD, do you plan to include additional portions for those that got cut?
-Yes. I plan to, for scenes that were cut, and also scenes where the wrong music was used. In the 15th episode, in the scene intercutting Anna (Han Ye Seul) looking for the cell phone Chul Soo (Oh Ji Ho) bought her, and Chul Soo remembering Anna while touching the dial on the electric heating pad, the music used was a complete mistake. Of all the 16 episodes, that wrongly used music is the top example. Eventually, if you see that scene properly, it should have double the emotional impact… (Laughs)
记者：在导演剪辑的DVD里，你是否想把被剪掉的部分再加进去？
金：是的，我很想，包括那些被剪掉的部分，也包括那些用错了音乐的部分。在第15集里，有一场戏是安娜在找哲秀买给她的手机，而哲秀拿着电热毯的开关想起了安娜，那里的音乐完全是个错误。在所有16集里，这个用错的音乐是最明显的。如果那场戏用对了音乐，它应该能让人倍加感动。。。（笑）[玉米注：最后一句话，按照我的理解翻的，没有直译。]
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:29

-In that scene, the sound of the phone flipping open and the heating pad dial turning was so similar, it was really funny.
-In that scene, sad music should have been quietly laid in the background, but the song was light-hearted and strange. Watching it on a small monitor on set, I was incredibly upset.
记者：在那场戏里，手机打开的声音和电热毯开关转动的声音很相似，非常有趣。
金：那场戏里，应该是悲伤的音乐慢慢的切入背景中，但是那首歌却非常轻快，很奇怪的感觉。在小显示器上看的时候，我简直是沮丧到极点。
[玉米注：这场戏我当时看的时候觉得音乐略有突兀，包括在这之前的安娜去翻垃圾找手机的音乐也是。但是专注于情节中，对于这些边角的东西也没有那么注意就是了。看过这段文字后再回头去看，的确是觉得音乐配得很奇怪。]
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:30

-Looking at Sang Shil’s clothes, you have checkered stockings with a purple skirt, a sweater with polka-dots on a sky-blue background. There were lots of unique clothes. Did you specify these things too?
-Yes. I like choosing those things. There was a windy scene we called the “rising storm scene,” when Yu Kyeong (Park Han Byul) and Sang Shil meet, in which we used red and blue to contrast. In the 6th episode, Kang Ja (Jung Soo Young) and Sang Shil are together by the rice field with their flowers, and they’re both dressed in similar pink tones to match, and I wanted viewers to get the sense that they were “silver bell sisters.”
Then there’s the scene where the kids are sick and Yu Kyeong comes to make them rice porridge. Both of them were dressed in red then, but it was to show the contrast between them. It’s the same color, but Sang Shil can’t even cook rice porridge; the viewers empathize with her sense of loss, but the mixed colors, worn as though she didn’t know how to match them, contributes to the effect.
记者：看桑实的衣服，有一身是格子袜子配紫色裙子，天蓝底带小点的毛衣。还有很多很独特的衣服。你有没有特别指定这些？
[玉米注：记者提到的那一身桑实的衣服，就是她以为恢复了记忆离开哲秀的时候穿的。]
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:36


金：是的，我喜欢选那些衣服。有一场戏是在风里面我们叫它“暴风雨要来了”，那场戏里，柔静和桑实遇见了，我们用了红色和蓝色来对比。
[玉米注：12集里柔静知道了哲秀不是因为喜欢桑实而是因为做了对不起她的事情才和她住一起之后就去找桑实，得意洋洋的奚落她没有记忆，桑实和柔静在大树下碰面，让柔静给买药喝的那场。之所以要在一个“暴风雨要来了”的氛围中，是因为她们的冲突更加激化，谁也不让谁，犹如暴风雨要来了；以及此后桑实逐渐恢复记忆，预示着暴风雨就要来了。导演好细致，连天气氛围都要考虑进去，和情节呼应。这就是桑实当时穿的衣服，这眼神，经典！]
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:37


在第6集里，姜子和桑实一起在稻田边，拿着花，她们都穿着相似的粉红色风格来相配，我就是想让观众有她们是“银铃姐妹”的感觉。
[玉米注：桑实喝米酒之前要干农活那场戏，粉红的毛衣我印象很深，姜子的倒不记得是粉红色了。不知道这“银铃姐妹”是什么著名渊源，片子里直接翻译的就是姐妹，大概也是怕中国观众看不懂。“银铃姐妹”装就是这一身。]
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:38

[玉米注：翻看剧照的时候，果然又发现其他的“姐妹装”。这一身，都是红白配]
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:39


[玉米注：还有这一身，红色姐妹共玩手机。]
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:40

还有场戏是孩子们生病了，柔静来给他们煮粥。她们俩都穿着红色，但这是为了表现她们之间的不同。虽然是同一种颜色，但桑实甚至不会煮粥，观众也会对她的失落感同身受。颜色上的混杂穿着，就好象她不知道该怎么搭配似的，也对这效果有所帮助。
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:41

在第6集里桑实喝米酒那场戏，艺瑟的表演就像定格了一样，我看到它时就在想，“这就是我想要的。”
[玉米注：瑟瑟这一场喝米酒的戏非常动人，任何仇恨在她那喃喃的“因为你很善良啊”、“要一直这么善良下去哦”里都会化为灰烬吧，看着她温柔美丽的样子，还带着点小女人的娇嗔，心底立刻变得软软的绵绵的，哲秀就是在此刻不知不觉的动了他的心。喝米酒的瑟，可惜这一张不是我最爱的那个表情。]
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:43


另一场重要的戏，在第10集，桑实在努力照顾生病的孩子之后躺在沙发上。我想慢慢的把镜头拉近她，来捕捉她的感觉——“我对这个家一点用都没有。”她在那场戏里做得非常好。[玉米注：我也觉得这里瑟把握得非常恰当，没有丝毫的夸张和做作，镜头看不到她眼睛正面，只有一个侧脸，也没有其他的表情和动作，却能深切的感受到她的失落]。一直到第15集，如果艺瑟或我不满意，我就不说ok（结束这场戏）。我想这是最好的看法。
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:43

-In “Secret Lovers,” there were a lot of details put into the sets. To make the room seem like a real room, you have the poor story writer, whose small mirror has a cut-out clipping of Joanne [aka J.K.] Rowling, and the father’s room has a lot of old cassette tapes. It feels like there’s really a person who’s been living here for a long time. In Fantasy Couple, to make the house seem more like the children’s home, you have the children’s crayon scribblings on the walls.
-I pay a lot of attention to the set details. I’ve particularly learned much from the director Hwang In Roi (director of MBC Drama since 1990). For instance, outdoor scenes are so detailed they can only cause problems, so we had to finish things up on sets. Breathing life into things to make them seem real, and making these characters natural, can be supported by the set.
Since the time I was an assistant director, I really enjoyed taking care of set details, like props or scribblings on walls. What kinds of props could we come up with for “Money oriented Chul Soo”? Thinking about it, because there are children in his house, I said, “Hey, tell them to scribble on the walls” and the staff went and drew on the walls. So then, I said, “The nephews! Not you guys. Tell the kids to do it!” (All laugh) The children drew all those themselves.
Also, because our drama had a strong sense of fantasy, the doors were blue to make it a slightly fairytale-like space. In any case, the drama needed to walk back and forth between the boundaries of reality and fantasy, so we thought about the parts where we could emphasize the fantasy characteristics.
记者：在《秘密男女》里，有许多布景上的细节设置。为了让房间看起来像真的是一个穷困的小说家的房间，[玉米注：韩智慧演的角色是个很穷的梦想成为童话作家的女孩]，你在镜子上贴了J.K.罗琳的剪贴画[玉米注：哈里?波特的作者]，她爸爸的房间有许多老磁带。感觉就像那里真有人住了很长的时间。在《梦幻情侣》里，为了让房子更像是孩子们的家，你在墙上弄了些孩子们的铅笔涂鸦。
金：我非常关注布景细节。尤其是从Hwang In Roi导演（从1990年开始在MBC戏剧部做导演）那里学到了很多。例如，户外场景非常细节化，会带来很多麻烦，因此我们不得不用这些布景来让场景看起来更真实。给东西赋予生命，让它们看起来更真实，让这些特征更自然，这些都可以通过布景来做到。
自从我做助理导演以来，我就很享受布景细节的设置，像墙上的道具[玉米注：指挂画、挂的其他一些东西，梦幻里面我也注意到了这些细节，导演考虑得非常周到]或者涂鸦。什么样的道具能够契合“嗜钱如命的哲秀”呢？[玉米注：我注意到哲秀床上方挂的是一张巨大的韩国纸币样子的布画，同样的画也挂在了楼梯上，桑实藏钱就藏在那张画里面的，果然是“嗜钱如命”啊]。有孩子们生活在他的房子里，我说，“嘿，告诉他们在墙上乱画”，工作人员就去在墙上画。然后我说，“是叫侄子们！不是你们。让孩子们去画！”（所有人都笑了）墙上那些都是孩子们自己画的。[玉米注：墙上的涂鸦我看的时候也注意到了的，看来我还真是很detail-oriented]
还有，因为我们的电视剧有很强的梦幻感觉，门都是涂成蓝色的，让它看起来有一点点童话的感觉。任何时候，戏剧都需要在现实和梦幻的界线之间来回游走，所以我们考虑了一些我们能够强调梦幻特点的部分。
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:44

-There were a ton of scenes with running or chasing. Normally we would see a full shot, two-shot, and the feet running. But in Fantasy Couple, you showed long shots and full shots for the entire scene. Every now and then, these scenes make the mood seem surreal.
-To me, the most important sequence was the “shovel scene.” In episode 1, scene 18, Jang Chul Soo is hit with the shovel. When you talk of “holding up a shovel,” then frame out to “the man is hit with the shovel,” people think “Huh?” They think, “If he’s hit with a shovel, doesn’t he die?” In the shovel-hitting scene, we used a high-speed camera, so the scene appears in slow-motion, and it gives the drama more of a fantasy feel. If the audience feels approval of that scene, I felt that they would be accepting of whatever comical scenes would follow. This scene was like the door to the fantasy world. I shot that for three days and 141 cuts. Although it was called a “horror scene,” this is where, in the end, Jang Chul Soo and Anna meet again. The staff was moved by that.
记者：有许多场戏都是奔跑和追逐。通常我们看到的这类场景都是全景，两个分景，还有脚在跑。但是在《梦幻情侣》里，你用了长景和全景来表现整个画面。每次看到的时候，这些画面就会让情绪非常奇特。
[玉米注：我真的不太懂这些专业术语，翻的不知道对不对。没研究过别的导演都怎么拍跑步的，但是我在看梦幻的时候，的确感觉到奔跑的戏有些不同，尤其是桑实奔跑的戏，看到镜头就是对着她，直到她跑近或跑远，我想这就是所谓的“长景”，这样的镜头拍人跑步不太好看，不过有点“惊心动魄”，能切实的感受到人物在奔跑时的状态。]
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:44


金：对我来说，最重要的一个情节是“铲子戏”。在第1集里，第18场，张哲秀挨了一铲。当你谈及“拿起铲子”，然后“一个男的被铲子打了”的时候，人们会想“啊？”“如果他挨了一铲，他不会死吗？”在这场戏里，我们用了一个高速摄影机，所以画面看起来是慢动作的，这就让这部剧有了更多一点梦幻感。如果观众认同这一场戏，我感觉接下来不管什么样的喜剧场景出来他们都会接受。这场戏就像通往梦幻世界的一扇门。我拍这场戏拍了3天，141段。虽然它被称为“恐怖地”，它也是最后张哲秀和安娜再次重逢的地方。工作人员都被那里所感动。
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:45


-Even Leonardo DiCaprio entered into the world of Fantasy Couple (laughs).
-The same goes for Anna and Chul Soo’s Sky Cell Phone parody. Sang Shil’s parody was met with some skepticism by the writers, but I just shot that without telling the writers… (Laughs) That only took about 30 minutes to shoot. But the sun had already set, so we edited in some shots picked up on another day. The latter part was revised.
记者：甚至连莱奥纳多都进入了梦幻情侣的世界（笑）。
金：还有安娜和哲秀的Sky手机模仿。桑实的手机模仿是遇到了编剧的一些质疑，但是我就这么拍了，没告诉编剧。。。（笑）那大约只花了30分钟拍摄。但是太阳已经落山了，所以我们又在编辑时选了一些另一天拍摄的画面，把它们修改了一下。[玉米注：这段看的我很晕，完全没搞明白他说的手机模仿是什么部分，谁看懂了的，跟贴解释啊。]
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:46

-Do you normally film very quickly?
-There were lots of cases where I had to do that. I was going crazy over all sunset scenes. At the end of episode 14 when Sang Shil falls into the swimming pool, I only had 40 minutes to shoot 42 cuts. It felt like I was running the 100 meter dash. Same goes for the scene in episode 10 where they turn in front of the lighthouse, and episode 12 where the sun was setting, that I felt like I was “warring against the sun.” Since it’s winter and the days are short, I was chasing everything here and there.
记者：你一般都拍得很快吗？
金：有很多时候，是我不得不快。我都快被落日场景搞疯了。在14集的最后，桑实要掉进游泳池里，我只有40分钟的时间来拍42段。那感觉就像我在100米冲刺一样。还有第10集里他们在灯塔前，第12集里太阳落山的部分，我都觉得我是在和太阳打仗。由于是冬天，白天很短，我就得不停的在赶。
[玉米注：14集的落日部分。我在看到几场落日戏的时候也常常在想，追赶太阳的戏拍起来很不容易，时机稍纵即逝，还是能看的出光线在每段之间有差别的。]
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:47


-It seems you’re careful about the scripts you choose. Do you work a lot together with the writers?
-When it comes to the characters or plot, that’s up to the writers, and I add to that. Up through episode 10, when I had doubts I asked them to revise the script. After episode 10, time became more urgent and I had no time to do that. The writers wrote while monitoring what was shown onscreen, so I think they kept the feel and rhythm of the series going.
The staff would occasionally say, “It takes forever to shoot the scenes I thought would shoot quickly, and the scenes it seems would take a long time are shot quickly.” That’s because of the difference between what is written in the script and the picture in my head. I started to be able to see how to film certain parts just by looking at the dialogue, and the writers would also look at what I’d filmed and apply that in writing the scripts. Sang Shil’s actions, and reinforcing Sang Shil-like behavior, gradually became part of me. On location, observing Ye Seul, there were many things she created on her own.
记者：似乎你对你选的剧本非常认真。你常常跟编剧一起探讨吗？
金：当涉及到人物或情节时，由编剧说了算，我做补充。第10集之前，当我有疑问的时候，我就请她们修改剧本。在第10集之后，时间越来越紧，我没时间这么做了。电视上一边放，编剧一边写，所以我想他们紧紧跟随着观众的感觉和节奏来调整。
剧组人员有时说，“那些我以为可以很快拍完的某场戏却拍个没完没了，而那些以为要拍很久的却进行得异常迅速。”那是因为剧本上所写的和我脑袋里面的画面之间有差别。我开始能够只看对白就知道怎么拍了，编剧也会看我拍的然后把它加到剧本里面去。设计桑实的动作，补充桑实式的行为，逐渐成为我的份内事。在片场，观察艺瑟，有许多是她自己创造的。[玉米注：指的是瑟瑟自己创出了许多桑实式的表情、动作、行为吧，瑟瑟，好厉害！]
作者：cornflakes2008 2008-12-24 21:48