【2008年--外国人对中国以及奥运的看法】转贴分享“师淇系列采访”
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不多缀言,摘美国兵哥的问答开始What it feels like to live in China? Is it stressful or peaceful? Is it happy? At this moment, It must be hard for you guys because of all the outside pressure.在中国生活是什么感觉?很有压力呢还是很平静?有幸福感吗?在这个时期,因为外部的压力你们一定觉得很辛苦吧。来吧,参与这些Q&A,了解他们也为更了解我们自己,支持师淇交换你的想法按“天涯”原贴及师淇博客整理转贴(原作者师淇已在博客声明可转贴)http://cache.tianya.cn/publicforum/content/sport/1/103714.shtmlhttp://blog.sina.com.cn/shiqispace
2008年04月15日 02点04分 1
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作者语:政治上的对立往往是一时的,所谓“没有永久的敌人,也没有永久的朋友,只有永久的利益”;很多热闹的事件,看似争斗不休,各方都举着“政治正确”的旗帜占领道德的制高点,而背后推动的往往只不过是利益的竞争和冲突,看似无解的局面其实都可以用实力一决高下。  然而由于信息沟和理解差异而造成的文化误读,以及随之产生的影响却是可以流传大半个世纪甚至更久。近日受到启发,我随机访问了一些周围的美国年轻人,大多数是大学生,请他们谈谈对中国文化,社会,和人的看法,得到了形形色色反馈。在这些想法当中,有的让人大跌眼镜,有的让人咬牙,也有的让人哭笑不得,更多的是让人感觉到加强文化交流和理解的重要。独乐不如众乐,这些精彩的答案现拿出来共享。英文部分由我进行了整理和编辑,因为访问往往是闲聊时随机问几个问题,答案也时常是断续的。整理后的英文文档已经由当事人进行了确认和编辑。
2008年04月15日 02点04分 2
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(一)被访问人NO.1 :Shannon (很女的名字哦!~我一直在想他的名字翻成中文岂不是叫香浓>_<)男性成长背景:Grown up in long island city, New York (纽约州长岛市长大)种族背景: Half Jewish half Spanish (一半犹太裔一半西班牙裔)教育背景: Junior in college ( 大学三年级在读)年龄: 21编者注:这位同学思维灰常滴跳跃,原因在于他是一个非常注重自己“精神体验”的人,有一次和他一边聊天一边在中央公园闲逛,我们从入口走到出口,他一直都在描述他前天晚上做的一个很有“灵异体验”的梦,要我帮忙分析梦见大蜘蛛吞掉他的头意味着什么-_-|||
2008年04月15日 02点04分 3
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答:我觉得北京举办奥运会是一件很积极的事情,因为这样我们(美国人)就有了更多的理由来了解和谈论中国。我尊重(感谢?)中国人为奥运会付出的努力,(这)必须付出很多。 Q:And will you go to Beijing for the Olympic Games if situation (your schedule and budget) allows? Why and why not?问:如果在有米有闲的情况下,你会去北京看奥运吗?为什么? A:Emmm, I would rather go to Beijing not during the Olympics. I wanted to see what ordinary Beijing looks like.Do I need a reason? Well, china, as well as Beijing, is like the world that is so far away yet so developed that I have no idea about. The image of Beijing on my mind right now is groups of people walking in highly commercialized dynamic streets.Also, I have never seen a Chinese movie made in urban area of china,so I wanted to see what big cities in china like. I can't tell thedifference of Tokyo and Beijing if you asked me now, but I will know if I went to Beijing someday. 答:嗯……我宁愿在不举行奥运会的时候去北京,我想看看北京平常的样子。去北京需要原因吗?这个嘛,中国,还有北京,(对我来说)就像一个我无法想象的发达的,又遥远的世界。现在北京在我脑海里的形象就是熙熙攘攘的人群走在高度商业化又有活力的街道上。而且,我从来没有看过在城市地区拍摄的中国电影(老谋子的贡献啊~~~),所以我想看看中国的大城市是什么样子。如果你现在问我东京和北京什么区别,我是答不上;不过等我去过北京就会知道了。 Q:How do you imagine the life in China?问:你想象在中国的生活是怎样的? A:I think everything could be purchased in China because everything is made there.And also, I think there are less extreme social classes there, only peasantry class and professional class. Not like here, if you are a middle class and you lose your job and house, you could become a homeless in one week.I have a friend who lives in the street; I can give you her number if you want to interview her. 答:我觉得任何东西都能在中国买到,因为所有东西都是那里制造的。还有,我觉得那里的阶级差异不会太大,只有农民和职业人群。不像这里,如果你是中产阶级,你不幸失业了又失去了房产的话,很可能一周之内就变成无家可归了。我有个在街上流浪的朋友哦,你要采访她的话我可以给你她的手机号。 注:纽约的homeless(无家可归者)历史悠久,且触目可及,如果追溯渊源的话甚至牵涉到帮派斗争,可以写一本类似教父的书了。 Q: Please give a few words to describe your perception of China as a world power.问:请给出几个词形容一下你对中国这个世界力量的看法。 A:I think china is leaded by a very competitive and global oriented government, and it is gaining more and more respect and attention now,which is a good thing, because people care when they feel something is powerful. For me, I would like to know more information about china ifI get the chance. 答:我感觉中国正被非常有竞争力和国际视野领导的政府,并且逐步获得越来越多的尊重和关注。这是一件好事,因为当人们觉得某种东西很强大的时候才会去关注。对我而言,如果有机会,我期待获得更多关于中国的信息。 小结:Shannon同学关于中国和中国文化的信息大多从电影,大众媒介,和周围的中国人身上获得,其中有偏差的地方,但我更多的感觉到的是他对中国的一种纯粹的好奇心,就像他刚认识我的时候追着问了我很多关于中国的问题,例如中国大学的考试是不是很严格,中国年轻人喜欢什么乐队等等。 就我的体验来说,美国的年轻一代对中国的态度是开放式的,他们希望了解更多中国的信息,甚至亲自去体验后,再来下判断。在访问越来越多的人之后,我唯一的遗憾就是,他们几乎一致的认为,中国对他们来说太神秘了,仿佛笼罩着一层迷雾一样触摸不到,所以他们只能通过大众媒介来试着触摸这个迷雾后的东方古国。而奥运,是不是就是一个契机让他们揭开这层迷雾呢?——我们期待。
2008年04月15日 02点04分 5
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(二)被访问人NO.2: Louis (话说西班牙裔的叫Louis的很多,再加上他的姓,在中国大约等同于张小刚,嘿嘿~) 男性成长背景:Immigrant from Honduras ,second generation(拉美洪都拉斯第二代移民)种族背景:Hispanic (拉美西裔)教育背景: Junior in college ,majored in international studies (大学三年级在读, 国际政治系)年龄: 23  编者注:此男风流倜傥,Myspace上两百多号人有百分之八十是女性……据小道消息每天要在镜子前花半小时才能出门,在走懒散风的美国男性中算罕见的。意大利语俱乐部的领导人物,平日里,上至教授校长,下至警卫黑叔叔,都能叫得上名字称得上交情。为人很注重manners(姑且称礼仪)
2008年04月15日 03点04分 6
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Q: What are the things cross your mind when think of China/Chinese?(such as things you most exposed to in daily life)问:想到中国的时候你一般会想到什么?比如说你在生活中常常见到的东西。答:You. 你啊!(放电ing*o*)And the fantastic food, Chinese people do know their ways in the kitchen.还有美食,中国人在厨房里很有一套。(师淇注)此处Louis口沫横飞,什么蟹黄包,肠粉,水煮鱼,三杯鸡……以下省略N字。 Q:Can you name a few channels you get information on China? (Movie,Newspaper, etc.)问:能不能举出几个你获取关于中国信息的渠道呢?报纸啦,电影啦?答:NBC news, travel channel, discovery channel.NBC新闻,旅游频道,探索频道。Q: And what impression you have on China/Chinese culture based onthese information?问:那你从这些信息里对中国得出了什么印象呢?答:I felt Chinese are with very high moral standard, they respectmanners and orders, not like people here, sometimes I have to curb the urge to straight up some stupid kids I met.我感觉中国人有很高的道德标准,他们尊重礼仪和秩序,不像这里有的人,有时候我不得不克制自己要教训某些愚蠢小子的冲动。Chinese in a general, will consider in many perspectives that if what they say or do will potentially hurt others, for them, they think before say something. And for people here, you know, some of them probaly had lost their brain in the subway so they don't bother to think at all.中国人大体来说,总是从各个角度考虑他们所说或所行是否会伤害他人,他们总是先思考再说话。对这里的人来说,有的人大概是把脑子扔在地铁里了所以也就不费劲去思考了。(师淇注)louis是第二代移民,所以仍然有很强烈的"我"对应"这里的人"的思维模式。 Q: When is the first time you have a Chinese friend? How do you know him/her?问:你第一次有来自中国的朋友是什么时候?你喜欢他/她嘛? 答:A guy in high school, he was pretty cool,his mother wouldn't let him do drugs and he never attempted to, that's pretty amazing to me, how a guy in high school would ever listen to his mother.高中同学,他还算酷吧,就是他老妈不让他嗑药而他也真的没有尝试过,对我来说挺惊奇的,一般男生在高中的时候怎么会听老妈的话呢。Q: And what do you think of him in the light of culture nuance?那你觉得他和你在文化方面有什么差异呢?答:He was pretty quiet most of the time. I mean, being quiet could be both good and bad. When you shared something intimate with a friend, his silence will be appreciated, because friends should be reliable;but when you guys are hanging out in a club, you don't want him to be intense and can't laid back.他大多数时候都很静。我觉得,沉静的性格既好也不好。当你和朋友分享了很私人的事情,你会欣赏他的沉稳,因为朋友要靠得住才行;不过,如果咱们在酒吧开心的时候,咱也不希望他过于沉闷以致不能放松自己吧。Q:What you think of the upcoming 2008 Olympic Games held in Beijing?对于即将到来的2008北京奥运会你有什么看法?答:It is a good thing for china and Chinese people to think about their roles and responsibilities on the international stage. I hope Olympics will bring people around world to see and experience more about china, but at the same time I wish China will open up more to let people know about it.
2008年04月15日 03点04分 7
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原作者语:征集一下大家的意见,如果有什么想问的问题,包括对媒体啦,ZD等一些具体的疑问都可以发上来,我周末会再访问几个有代表意义的人,希望能提出比较有挑战性的问题哦。多刺激的问题都可以,他们一般都会答,怕只怕天涯的尺度不够大,回答发不上来,呵呵。  大家多点反馈,我就好多问问题,勤奋更新哦~  预告:下一节,超级访问:在美军服役过五年的,征战过伊拉克和阿富汗的兵哥哥。
2008年04月15日 03点04分 9
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=_=!!!附送的张小刚同学的一个小轶事:因百度通不过(只能改原文字一段段试了)    话说有一天,我和小刚童学进行这友好的文化交流活动,我八卦起我另外一个BH的g** friend(“筒子”筒子,呵呵)的一段BH的往事,听了我兴奋的描述,小刚沉默了一会,忽然KANGYI道:“why you telling me this? Do you think I am gay?干嘛告诉我?你觉得我是gay?”  
2008年04月15日 03点04分 10
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Q:Can you name a few channels you get information on China? (Movie,Newspaper, etc.)问:能不能举出几个你获取关于中国信息的渠道呢?报纸啦,电影啦答: For general information I would go to New York Times, BBC, andWashington post. If I wanted to understand an issue more thoroughlyand more objectively I would go find foreign policies journals such as the< Political Science Quarterly>. Because to understand the inside and out of a certain issue you have to be informed of its history and current state from every aspects.日常的消息我会去看纽约时报,BBC,和华盛顿邮报。如果我想深入和不受偏见地了解某个问题,我会去看关于国际政策的期刊,比如《政治学季刊》。因为要从里到外地了解某一个议题,必须要全面了解它的历史和现状。 Q: And what impression you have on China/Chinese culture based onthese information?问:那你从这些信息里对中国得出了什么印象呢? 答:Basically people are the same. In different cultures, there aremaybe differences like how people eat, wear and talk, but people are all driven by the same causes to live every day. To love, to be loved, to avoid death, and to find happiness.其实从根本上来说,人都是一样的。在不同的文化中,也许有一些像衣,食,言谈方面的差异,但是人从根本上都是被同样的理由驱使而或者。爱,被爱,逃避死亡,寻找幸福。I'm sure there are deep supports of every culture. From what we see from the news, even there are negative perspectives about China / Chinese, so what? There are good and bad about every culture. It is easier to point fingers at other country or culture because the bad things are not happening to us, but I would rather think in this way: would us do any better in their position? I will try to think what challenges people have to solve problems than just simply requires them to do that and stop this. It's not fair.每一个文化肯定都有背后深厚的根基。即使我们从新闻上看到关于中国负面的一面,那又怎样呢?每个文化都有它好和不好的一面。对别的国家或者文化指指点点很容易,因为事情没有发生在我们身上,但是我宁愿这样想:如果我们在他们的处境,会做得更好吗?我会试着去想象这些人们有怎样的难处使他们不能解决那些问题,而不是仅仅要求他们去做那样那样或者停止这样这样。这不公平。
2008年04月15日 03点04分 13
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Q:What you think of the upcoming 2008 Olympic Games held in Beijing?对于即将到来的2008北京奥运会你有什么看法? 答: Things are getting very controversial these days and I think it is the biggest challenge the Chinese and the government had in years. In the old times China had been more focused on its own development than pleasing the outside world, however the past ten years China'seconomical success had gradually turned around the world's attention, the people had been more interactive with the world, the culture especially the film industry had also attempted to let the outside world to experience the fast evolving Chinese society together. All of these efforts are highlighted by the host of Beijing Olympic Games. The media here always describe the 2008 Olympics as "China's come out party", indicating that by opening up to the world and letting outside world stepping inside, China's potential as the world's major player would be recognized.最近事情变得很有争议,我认为这对中国人和政府来说是近年来遇到的最大的考验。在从前中国把注意力集中在自己的发展而非取悦外部世界,而过去的十年里,中国的经济成就逐渐的引起了世界的关注,中国的人民和世界的交流也越来越双向,而文化特别是电影工业也在尝试让外面的世界一起经历快速演变的中国的社会。而这些努力的高潮就是北京取得奥运申办权。这边的(西方)媒体总是把2008奥运会描述成"中国的成年舞会"(类似少女成年进入社交场合的正式介绍身份的舞会),喻为通过向世界敞开自己,让外面的世界走进来,中国的成为世界主要力量的潜力当被正式地承认。However things may not be as what Chinese people expected, it is not necessary to be disappointed yet because some people are trying to attempt to destroy the party. I mean, we are more into parties, and from my experiences, despite the chaos before the party, you never judge whether you are going to have fun during the party. When something is too big and the more you wanted it to be smooth and the more you care about it, the more likely you would be likely to experience some little disasters at the fore night. But hey, you never know, plenty of parties are fun no matter how many disasters had occurred, let's just see what is going to happen on August.虽然事情不像中国人想象的那样,但是现在也没有必要感到失望仅仅因为某些人正试图破坏这个舞会。我的意思是,我们(美国人)更热衷舞会吧,而根据我的经验,不管舞会开始前有多混乱,你永远不能判断你会不会在舞会上享受到乐趣。有时候,当事情过于重要,你越希望它顺利,你越在乎它,你就越有可能在舞会前夜经历一些小灾难。但是,嘿,你猜不到的,不管多少个小灾难发生过,许多舞会是很有趣的。让我们拭目以待八月份会发生些什么吧。
2008年04月15日 03点04分 14
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Q:And will you go to Beijing for the Olympic Games if situation (your schedule and budget) allows? Why and why not?如果在有钱有时间的情况下,你会去北京看奥运吗?为什么? 答:I wouldn't go to Olympics since I am not a big fan of big parties. But I do want to go to China just to see what is happening in China now. Maybe I will go to small towns to see how the ordinary people live and taste the real Chinese food there, and maybe I will have more fun than going to Olympics by which many people are trying mess up.我不会去看奥运会因为我不是大型舞会的狂热粉丝。但是我绝对想要到中国去看看现在中国正发生着什么。也许我会去一些小城镇去看看平常的中国人的生活,品尝真正的中国食物,而这样,比起去看正被一些人搞复杂的奥运会,我也许会享受到更多的乐趣。About going to China, to be honest with you, China is not a prior choice of country on the wish list for most people I know here. For them, if they get a chance to travel, they would first like to go back to Europe, their culture roots, to discover what they identify with. Just like every Jewish would like to go to Jerusalem, every Hispanic want to go to Spain.关于造访中国,诚实的讲,对于很多人的旅行计划,中国并不是首选的国家。对他们来说,如果有机会旅行,他们首先想要重返他们文化的根基欧洲,来探索他们能共勉的文化。就像每个犹太人想要造访耶路撒冷,每个拉美人想要去西班牙一样。
2008年04月15日 03点04分 15
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猫爪划过……忍不住插楼了(画外音:你好像从来就没忍过!),无香这个贴转得有意义!
2008年04月15日 03点04分 17
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【问题时间】(一)大家能不能回答一下小G同学的问题,我好给他权威的答复啊:  I would be curious to know, what characteristic is actually communist in china?我很好奇,想知道在中国,什么事情有真正的共产主义特征?(二)又是提问时间哦,我发现小G同学的问题还挺多的,不过都很有建设性,请大家踊跃发言。  小G (睁着哈利波特眼镜后的大眼睛)问:What it feels like to live in China? Is it stressful or aceful? Is it happy? At this moment, It must be hard for you guys cause of all the outside pressure.在中国生活是什么感觉?很有压力呢还是很平静?有幸福感吗?在这个时期,因为外部的压力你们一定觉得很辛苦吧。(同志们辛苦了,慰劳ING~)  再次在分页预告下:下一节,访问公关专家对如何对奥运会不和谐音的进行危机公关。
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师淇:当/然,我/想/我/可/以/电/邮/你/更/多/的/信/xi,以/展/shi/给/你/真/实/发生的/事/件。但是在那之前,请允许我再次发问,您知道在X/Z的历/史和现/状吗?而且,你说的"糟/GAO",是指的X/Z人还是其/余的中/GUO/人呢?
2008年04月15日 03点04分 23
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(和度度作斗急太累人了)师淇:的确。但是您相信CNN和其它西/方/媒体在报导XZ和圣/火/传递中持有中/立/立/场吗?E女士(讽/喻地):即使我不了解关于XZ的问题,我也可以告诉你,在媒体中没有绝对的中/立。中立只在你的想象中存在。孩子,让我告诉你,当我像你这么大时,(美国社会上的)事情不是这样的。现在大笔的广告资金涌进了媒体操作,(把它)搞/臭了。当危/机发生的最初几天,你应该注意观察/媒体以及新闻/发言人的陈述,这时候你很有可能会抓到他们撒/谎或者掩/藏某些事/实的证/据。比如前段时间的西/佛吉尼亚的煤/矿/爆/炸事故(背景资料见文末)。因为媒体,和背后支持他们的权/势/集/团,总是需要遮/盖/丑/处,来保护他们的利/益。
2008年04月15日 03点04分 25
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Q: what you think of the chaos happening during the Torch running?师淇:请问您怎么看最近发生在圣//火传递中发生的混乱局面?A:Ms. Evans: It is absolutely horrible. I have never seen those kind ofthings happened before. Honestly I don't know why all the attacks aregoing on. Maybe you can give me a little recap on it.E女士:简直太糟糕了。我从来没见过这样的事情。老实说我不知道为什么这些攻击会发生,也许你能给我一点总结。 Q: sure, I believe I can email you more information to reveal what is truly going on. But before I do that, may I ask, do you know what has happened and is happening in Tib//et? And by "horrible", which are you referring to, the Tib/e/tans or the rest of Chinese?师淇:当然,我想我可以电邮你更多的信息,以展示给你真实发生的事件。但是在那之前,请允许我再次发问,您知道在XZ的历史和现状吗?而且,你说的"糟糕",是指的XZ人还是其余的中国人呢?A:Ms Evans: I really can't make a judgment until I know more information about it. I always feel sorry to see the chaos and people attacking each other, so by 'horrible' I mean the whole situation. People should find more constructive ways to solve problems.E女士:在我了解更多信息之前我实在不好判断。看到混乱和人们互相攻击我总是很遗憾。所以我说的糟糕是指整个局面。人们应该找到更有建设性的方式来解决问题。
2008年04月15日 03点04分 27
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师淇:我知道您是危/机公关的专家。假/设北/京AO组/委雇/您来应对当前的危/机,您会怎么做呢?
2008年04月15日 04点04分 28
level 6
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Q: sure, I believe I can email you more information to reveal what is truly going on. But before I do that, may I ask, do you know what has happened and is happening in Tib//et? And by "horrible", which are you referring to, the Tib/e/tans or the rest of Chinese?师淇:当然,我想我可以电邮你更多的信息,以展示给你真实发生的事件。但是在那之前,请允许我再次发问,您知道在XZ的历史和现状吗?而且,你说的"糟糕",是指的XZ人还是其余的中国人呢?A:Ms Evans: I really can't make a judgment until I know more information about it. I always feel sorry to see the chaos and people attacking each other, so by 'horrible' I mean the whole situation. People should find more constructive ways to solve problems.E女士:在我了解更多信息之前我实在不好判断。看到混乱和人们互相攻击我总是很遗憾。所以我说的糟糕是指整个局面。人们应该找到更有建设性的方式来解决问题。
2008年04月15日 04点04分 29
level 6
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E女士:现在的局/面是,我假/设的雇/主,北京AO组委,目前来说并不受(西方)媒体的青/睐,那么首先这是一个我要接手的很复/杂的案/例。就我的经验,我可能会先转向赞/助北京奥运会以及和奥运会联合的大/型国际组织,来联手推行大规/模的广告及公关宣传来重新塑/造对北京奥运会固有的观念。时间可能很有限,因为现在只有不到四个月的时间了,但是这值得一试。广告宣传的好处就是你可以付钱让媒/体以你期望的方式和公众交流,而且在这些信息上,你是有控/制/权的一方。在目前,我所见到的是中国/政/府和奥组/委已经失去了对于信息的控/制/权,让步给了与他们站在对/立/面的记者们。
2008年04月15日 04点04分 32
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