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Unpopular Opinion: Why Tangled Is Better Than Frozen
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Disclaimer: This is an argument against Frozen in favor of Tangled. Yes, I enjoyed both films. Yes, I liked Frozen. Is everything I’m saying going to apply to everyone? Of course not, but I think some people will agree with me, which is why I brought these points to life.

When I saw Tangled for the first time I liked it, but I didn*t love it. The second time I saw it, something awoke in me that I hadn*t felt since The Lion King was released in 1994. It was pure Disney magic and Tangled quickly joined my top 5 Disney animated features of all time.
The first time I saw Frozen I was deeply disappointed and walked out of the theater embarrassed I had made my date sit through it. My friends and I spent quite a while passionately discussing its many short-comings, particularly in the emotion department.
Then the reviews came out…. Wow, did we miss something!?
I waited a while before seeing it again, and I will admit I liked it much better the second time, but it in no way pushed its way into my top 5, nor even my top 10. So, why do I think Tangled is such a superior film? Allow me to explain my thought process. No one has to agree with me, but I have a feeling some might…
Let’s begin at the beginning:
I am not ashamed to admit that I much prefer Frozen’s beautiful opening ice cutting sequence to Tangled’s overplayed “Once Upon a Time” intro, but here’s the issue: That glorious opening scene had me bouncing in my seat in anticipation of a film that was equally as visually stunning and culturally significant. Buuut, I never got this. Not even close. I got a cute little story filled with weak characters that I never really came to care about, particularly Elsa. (More on this later).
Cartoons though they may be, audiences can only suspend their beliefs so much in this day and age. Compare Tim Burton’s Batman films to Christopher Nolan’s. Yes it’s a superhero in a cape, but Nolan makes it seem like Batman could actually exist in the real world.
What’s my point? Tangled illustrates to us immediately why Rapunzel has special powers, showing us how her mother drank a brew made from a magic, golden, life-giving flower. Disney felt it was important to divulge this information to viewers, so why didn*t they feel the same way about Elsa’s powers? Why do they exist? Why does no one else in the family or on the earth suffer from this and why do these trolls know so much about it? These questions still haunt me.

In Tangled, We know Rapunzel and Mother Gothel have had a fairly pleasant life in the tower for 18 years. Other than being bored, Rapunzel is bubbly, healthy and very much in love with her mother. We also know that Rapunzel’s parents are devastated by her loss, so much so that they lead the entire kingdom in a floating lantern ceremony every year on her birthday in hopes that she will return to them. When the story actually begins, they have been doing this same thing for 18 years.
What do we know about Anna and Elsa’s parents? We know they are alive, they are royalty, they have two daughters, and they have knowledge of trolls. We know their idea of being supportive of Elsa is to ask her to conceal and not feel for the rest of her life. We know they seem to have said nothing to poor Anna explaining why Elsa can’t build a snowman, not even a white lie. We know that they leave the kingdom one day for an unknown reason and die on a sinking ship. That’s about it. We really can’t even be sure they were particularly good people or parents.
Look at Rapunzel’s father in the opening scene of Tangled when his wife is dying. The expression of sheer terror in his eyes in tangible. Watch the scene when they lift the lantern into the sky on Rapunzel’s 18th birthday. Again, her father’s face is utterly devastated. The mother, her eyes so sympathetic and sad, sees this look as she straightens his medallion and gingerly touches his face. So much is said in this 10 second wordless exchange it’s simply incredible. In fact, Rapunzel*s parents do not utter a single word in the entire film and yet they manage to leave a lasting impression.
When Elsa and Anna’s parents died I didn*t feel so much as a flutter in my stomach. There was certainly no Bambi or Lion King moment there. Perhaps, to many people, this was a relief, but I am a believer that those heartbreaking scenes exist for a reason and that reason is to emotionally involve viewers in the story. Empathy is a powerful tool for a film to work with, and one that helps them stay in people hearts forever. (Up, anyone?)

Another emotional wordless encounter in Tangled occurs when Rapunzel finally returns to her parents. Her mother examines her, not quite ready to believe the impossible had actually happened, and then tearfully embraces her, joined soon after by her father. Naturally Anna and Elsa cannot be reunited with their parents, but there is no equivalent scene to match this. Anna and Elsa hugging after Anna’s selfless act is the resolution we’re looking for as an audience, but it does not give off an emotional impact. It doesn*t really do anything for the viewer except wrap things up.
Let’s talk about sidekicks for a moment. Everybody knows that Anna and Elsa are practically twins of Rapunzel (don’t even get me started) but what about Maximus and Sven? They may not look exactly alike, but aside from the fact that Maximus is more driven and intelligent, you’ve got to admit they share very similar personalities. I love that Kristoff provides a funny human voice for Sven. This was a definite check plus for Frozen in my book. However, on the same token, I love how Maximus has an equal amount of personality to a speaking character without any kind of voice at all. He begins as a villain (or rather a good guy that we are meant to view as a villain since the thief is our hero) chasing Flynn Rider through various near-death experiences. His loyalty to his job never falters until the sweet, innocent Rapunzel bargains with him for a day off. Maximus’ impact on the film is so great that he could potentially have ended the entire movie in the first scene by capturing Flynn and sending him to prison. Though lovable, I don’t think Sven could have altered the plot much at all.
Frozen does have Olaf, an equivalent of which Tangled lacks. When I saw the previews for Frozen I expected to hate Olaf, but instead he became one of my favorite characters. His song, “In Summer” is a comical masterpiece and I am happy to give him credit as a great comic-relief sidekick. So, why am I including him in this argument if this is supposed to be pro-Tangled? Because Tangled stands proud and tall without an extra “Olaf” character. In other words: Tangled didn*t need him the way Frozen desperately did.
And now let’s move on to villains. Did Frozen have any? Oh yeah, the hot guy that Anna almost married. How could I forget? Easily. I remember watching the movie the second time around with my roommate. Three quarters of the way through the film when Kristoff and Anna are racing to get her kiss from whatshisname (I honestly don’t recall at the moment) she said, ”Oh, now I remember.” It took her that long to even remember that Hans was the villain! (I seriously just Googled his name because it was lost to me. He*s just not memorable...) When you find out he’s actually a bad man you gasp and you think, well-played Disney. But he doesn*t just go “bad”. He goes slimy, black-hearted evil. (I*d like to as you to pardon this run-on sentence in advance:) We’re talking about a character who goes from flouncing around in “Love is an Open Door” and handing out blankets to freezing people to a character who delivers a greedy speech and a sinister laugh while pouring water on the fire in front of a freezing, dying Anna without so much as a blink! What? Huh? What? How is anyone supposed to buy this? We need more! There’s not enough! I am left so unsatisfied with this plot twist. What*s his motivation? He has a zillion brothers and will never get to sit on a throne? So what!-- Is this enough to make you a cold-blooded murderer?
Enter Mother Gothel. She’s genius. Like Hans, she’s fairly attractive, especially for a villain. Rapunzel loves her mother and has no idea she is a bad woman. This much is akin to Frozen, but that’s where the similarities end. One might argue that Frozen’s bait-and-switch was a clever idea, but the beauty of Tangled’s villain is the constant question of our loyalties. Unlike Frozen, the audience knows Mother Gothel is evil from the moment the film starts, and yet we can clearly see that she has raised Rapunzel well. As I mentioned earlier, Rapunzel is healthy, happy, plucky, educated, loyal and loving to her mother. Mother Gothel, aside from the obvious, has been a good parent to Rapunzel, and there are moments when you actually believe she loves her. (Softly: “I love you most”.) Every once in a while, for some twisted reason, you might even think “Oh, Gothel actually has a point.” THIS is the real clever idea. A villain you are aware of, but feel for regardless; a villain who you almost start to like until, “YOU ARE NOT LEAVING THIS TOWER EVER!” And pow! You are reminded of what you’re dealing with. That little moment after Mother Gothel shouts this when you see Rapunzel’s fingers lift from the closet handle is just amazing. In such a tiny gesture you witness a major plot turn; you witness a decision being made that will change everyone’s life forever.

Tangled is filled with tiny moments like this that steal the show, but of course it also has one big moment that everyone remembers. The lanterns. Breathtaking imagery, enchanting orchestral accompaniment (that Spanish guitar intro when the King and Queen step onto the balcony that melts into a burst of orchestra, gasp!). Then comes the moment when Rapunzel, who has been quietly dropping flowers in the water with Flynn, sees the lanterns for the first time. She panics and trips over herself to get a better view and then sinks into her glory. You can see that for one shining moment nothing else in the world matters but those lanterns… And then suddenly Flynn matters.
Frozen has only one comparably visual stunning scene and that is during Elsa’s “Let it Go” song in which she creates a palace of ice. Is the imagery beautiful? Yes. Is the song good? Yes. Do I feel emotionally moved when the scene is over? Mm, not really. I mean, I may have a sudden rush of “girl power” feelings come over me, but honestly, I don’t care about Elsa. Not only does the film not mold her as particularly likable, but it doesn’t even make me feel sorry for her. I have no emotional attachment to her whatsoever, and this all stems from the points I previously discussed. The explanation of her problem is so vague and her role in the film is actually quite small. We see Anna’s side of the years of loneliness but we never really see Elsa’s. Where is Elsa’s “Part of Your World” moment? Where is Elsa’s “When Will My Life Begin”? Aside from a few flaccid incidents, we, the viewer, don’t experience the struggle with her. We aren*t given many opportunities to feel her pain and loneliness. So when Elsa decides to break free and live alone and sing a powerful song and build a beautiful ice palace all I can think is: Good for you, Elsa. I’m happy for you.
And finally we get to the music. Both films have great music. We are at a draw here. At first I hated Tangled’s opening song, feeling like it was fresh out of an episode of Hannah Montana, but I soon realized it was a perfect fit. Rapunzel is 17. She’s innocent, naïve and inexperienced with a culture-less life that consists of mainly arts and crafts. What other kind of a song should she be singing? Mother Gothel’s Broadwayesque diva tune is hilarious and adds heaps to her character, plus is gets a reprise which I’m always a big fan of. “I’ve Got a Dream” may be a bit kitchy, but what Frozen fan could possibly judge it while “Fixer-Upper” exists. “The Kingdom Dance” has no words, but if you’ve seen the film once or twice I bet you know the tune. That montage, with its exciting crescendo build is one of my favorite parts of the film and it acts as the perfect setup to the following scene (lanterns). And finally, “At Last I See the Light” is a beautiful lover’s duet that illustrates the mood perfectly while being cloaked in breathtaking animation. Not much more needs to be said because no one can deny how good it is. As for the music from Frozen is almost all great, and quite frankly, very fresh in people’s minds, so I don’t see the need to lay it out here. The main problem I have with the music is how hard it tries to be a Broadway score. I found the drama of the music to be a bit over the top and I squirmed at how seriously it took itself. There is a distinct reason why I couldn*t join in in taking the music serious... My lack of emotional attachment. Don*t know what I mean? Think of the difference between Aladdin and Jasmine singing with each other in Aladdin and then put Popeye and Olive Oil in their place. Nothing else changes. Same song, same orchestra, same passion. The difference: you don*t really care what happens to Popeye, and therefore the song becomes comical, not romantic. This film didn*t really make me care about Elsa, so her passionate musical exchanges with her sister seemed almost laughable to me.
Emotions take movies from good to great. They give movies the power to move people and power to be remembered forever. They can influence a plot so much that even the most mundane and overdone story can seem fresh. They turn fictional characters into people that you wish you actually knew and people that you carry with you in your heart when you leave the theater and return to reality. They make music more memorable and visuals more stunning. They make you laugh and cry and sing along and dance. Tangled is littered with emotions. Every moment that isn’t making you laugh is making you think or feel. With Frozen, this simply isn*t the case, and I know I can’t be the only person who feel this way...

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From the kingdom of SWEDEN

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以下是我个人观点
转这篇文不是想比较哪一部电影更好，这种比较没什么意义。吸引我的是文中对于种种细节的分析与评价。
上面这篇文章，如果按我的理解，就是说Tangled细节方面更胜一筹，使得电影整体在情绪表达、连贯性等方面更胜一筹。想必不少看过Tangled的也会或多或少的感觉到其对细节的良苦用心与熟练驾驭。反观frozen，现在让我回忆的话，倒还是记得故事情节，人物什么的，但是能触动到我的细节，还真没有几个。而且觉得近几年的电影，值得琢磨玩味的细节也是愈来愈少了。
拿驯龙2来说，还记得其中几个小片段，比如嗝嗝向他妈介绍无牙尾鳍受伤时，嗝妈明显露出了厌恶的表情。这本来是个很好的细节，可以更深的刻画嗝妈爱龙如子的性格，但这种表情变化实在太明显，明显到不能称之为细节的程度，反而会有做作之嫌。再比如反派驯服那条喷火龙（忘了叫啥）时，不像主角等人那样用手接触，而是用脚踩。本来也是个好细节，但却给了个特写。诚然用特写更有表现力，更利于突出人物，但过于夸张的镜头却会让早已审美疲劳了的观众感到厌倦。
回到frozen，一些本应有细节的地方却被空下了。比如文中所说，我们对国王和王后几乎一点也不了解；小elsa的心路历程的缺失也让观众在她放弃一切时感同身受。最典型的还是hans，转变的太过突兀，几乎没有任何细节的铺垫，虽说对于剧情反转很有利，但我不觉得有多少人会没有丝毫疑虑的接受这种转变。也如文中所说，就因为王位轮不到自己就变的如此蛇蝎心肠？没有足够的细节铺垫，这让人几乎无法理解。
从大的方面讲，整个时代都在变得浮躁混乱表面化，电影制作对于细节的渐渐忽视似乎也情有可原。电影正在向更夸张更表面更直接的方向前进，你可以从最近的几部电影的人物形象窥见一斑。但真正值得琢磨玩味的细节才能让电影更深刻更有内涵，才能更多的招揽回头客。我相信frozen上映时如此吸金，很大程度上是因为观众对于其上一部公主电影Tangled，尤其是对其中的细节，意犹未尽。电影浮躁化的趋势如果不加以控制，只会让爆米花片变得愈来愈多。Disney原有的匠人精神是绝对不能抛弃的。

文章写的太好了，表达出了我一直想表达却表达不出来的想法，我一直认为Tangled的剧情节奏把控的特别好，Kingdom Dance是高潮之前的最好铺垫，它把气氛烘托到极致，然后随着I see the lights迎来全篇的高潮，这一系列的发生不急不缓，却还让人回味无穷；还有就是Rapunzel的父亲流泪的那个地方和之前的舞蹈形成了最好的对比，大家都把这一天当做一个节日来纪念，但却没有人会真正理解国王的心酸苦楚。像这样的细节真的太多，所以我一直说Tangled不仅是一部好看的动画电影，更是一部值得回味的作品！它把迪士尼最经典的部分继承，却也突破了最原始的迪士尼，所以如果让我说如今的迪士尼代表作是什么，我一定不假思索的说出Tangled！

居然这么冷，顶一个

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两部我都很喜欢，看够多就能发现更多细节... frozen 很多地方不如 tangled 细致，却也不是那样没有细节啊！

这么本质的贴怎么这么flop…