Badminton CentralColumnskwun's articlesArticlesGeneralEquipmentProfessional PlayersTechniquesHumorNewsBadminton NewsDiscussion ForumTournaments2005 TournamentsGeneralTechniquesProfessional PlayersEquipmentPlaces to PlayEquipment ReviewsRacketsShuttlecockStringsShoesClothingPhoto GalleryTournamentsProfessional PlayersLinksContact Us News & Articles Forums Product Review Photo Gallery Links About Us Active Topics User CP FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts Search Quick Links Log Out Active Topics New Posts Last Day Last 2 Days Last 3 Days Last 4 Days Last 5 Days Unanswered Posts Search Forums Advanced Search Quick Links New Posts Mark Forums Read Open Buddy List User Control Panel Edit Signature Edit Profile Edit Options Miscellaneous Private Messages Subscribed Threads My Profile Badminton Central > Badminton Central Discussion Forums > Badminton Tournaments > 2005 Tournaments > World Championships 2005 WC MS analysis Welcome, leocheng.You last visited: 08-01-2005 at 12:16 PM Private Messages: 0 Unread, Total 0. View First Unread Thread Tools Search this Thread 08-10-2005, 11:43 PM #1 DaN_fAn Location: indiaPosts: 330 WC MS analysis --------------------------------------------------------------------------------So before all the action starts lets do a quick analysis on the MS.Here are a few stats taking into the account the last 2 tournaments-Singapore Open and Malaysian Open.Since they were around one and half months after the Sudirman Cup and were in quick succession and they were the last tournaments before the WC,I have considered only these 2 tournaments as such.[Pics from Badmintonphoto.com]Again these Stats are only from the last 2 tournaments-#1 seed Lin DanMatches Won-9Matches lost-2#2 Seed Kenneth JonassesenMatches won-5Matches lost-2#3 seed Peter GadeMatches won-7Matches lost-2#4 seed Bao ChunlaiMatches won-7Matches lost-2#5 seed Lee Chong Wei[Malaysian Open winner]Matches won-8Matches lost-1#6 seed Taufik Hidayat[Singapore Open Winner]Matches won-9Matches lost-1#7 seed Chen HongMatches won-8Matches lost-2#8 seed Muhammad Hafiz HashimMatches won-5Matches lost-2So if Statistics are to be given any Importance then Taufik Hidayat,Lee Chong Wei and Lin Dan are contenders straight away.But Lee and taufik are the title winners in the recent 2,so if that gives them even a minute dege,they will take it.Peter Gade,Bao Chunlai and Chen Hong have also been very consistent which should again show us how close it's going to be.The only Players who have under performed are kenneth Jonassen and Hafiz Hashim.Unfortunately Hafiz's draw is not the greatest either.Wong Choong hann who has himself said that the fact that there is not much pressure on him to perform might make him do well at the WC but the fact also remains that he[Along with Ronald Susilo and Sony Dwi Kuncoro] have won just 3 matches from the last 2 tournaments.Lee Hyun II has infact done better than the trio.

But Statistics even though important cannot decide anyone's fate at the WC.One long month of training and some of the players who have n't done well would aldready have left things behind them.So it's pretty much even except that few players are having a slight edge owing to their recent perfomances.But how much-we will soon see.All i have to say again is-It does n't get BIGGER than this. So let's see what's your say.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Last edited by DaN_fAn : 08-10-2005 at 11:45 PM. DaN_fAn View Public Profile Send a private message to DaN_fAn Find More Posts by DaN_fAn Add DaN_fAn to Your Buddy List 08-11-2005, 12:00 PM #2 Brave_Turtle Location: Montreal (514)Posts: 851 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Thank you Dan_fan! I was wondering when will someone start a thread like this. I think there is a high chance that we will have a high quality Lin Dan Vs Taufik final. Here's how I see it, please comment!LIN DAN Lin Dan is 1st seed and even tough he hasn't lost any games this year until recently I will put him has top contender to win the gold (he always reached semis). Everyone is scared to play him because he is so fast and can adapt himself to any type of game, I think he is a counter attack player who has very offensive oriented weapon. Gade even said once that Lin is a hard oponnent because you can't play too much defense or too much aggressive.Lin Dan is the type of player who play well against everyone and not just a specific type of player.Even tough sometime he is a bit arrogant, Lin is a smart player and has a very great mental strenght (Yeah but what about MO? keep on reading) . He won't have any problems to reach semi final for sure as he got a very good draw. The only player who can match him on paper is Taufik but he is on the other bottom 32 so no worries. IMHO What appened to him on MO was just an accident (sorry to LCW fan) and I'm sure Lin Can't wait to have a sweet revenge.The only player that I see who can upset Lin Dan in the top bracket is Chen Hong if he passes Gade and Hafiz if he can pass his very hard draw. If Hafiz wins this WC it is going to show that he is the cream of the crop and not a skillfull dark horse anymore.Taufik HidayatAfter winning Taufik showed that he could match any player of the circuit. His record after Olympic Vs LD showed that he has an upper hand vs the 1st seed (2-1). Taufik is the type of player who is unpredictable, he can play really well or really bad depending on the day. If he is on form and I think he will be, any player should fear him. Like Lin, Taufik is very offensive minded but rely on his techniques more than his speed. Tight net shot followed by a smash is his trademark. From the draw things will start getting hot for him when he will have to face Thai #1 Boonsak (3-0) and the 2nd seed Kenneth J (2-0). If he manages to past these 2 he will have to play against the winner between LCW (1-1), WCH (3-5) and Bao (2-4). Luckily, he will only have to play 1 of these player because he doesn't really have a good face-to-face against them. I personally think WCH would be the hardest as Bao easily struggles in big events and LCW won against Taufik while he was injured.

The Grand final:If everythign goes well we will have a legendary WC final. Both players are considered the best of the best and they have a tie record (2-2). I hope Taufik win but I think Lin is really hungry to win this title and to prove that he really deserve the #1 spot. Brave_Turtle View Public Profile Send a private message to Brave_Turtle Find More Posts by Brave_Turtle Add Brave_Turtle to Your Buddy List 08-11-2005, 09:41 PM #3 DaN_fAn Location: indiaPosts: 330 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Too early to say that they will both meet in the finals.though personally considering the todraw i would like to see a Taufik-Lin/Taufik-Gade .The thing is if it is either then u can be sure of a great match as is shown in recent times.I do agree with you about Lin Dan.One thing about him that most other seeds dont have is the ability win even when not playing at his best[ against most players].in the sense when he's playing at his best we know how good he is.but even when he plays bad he really does not lose cheaply or the macth does not end soon.He has a very good lower limit to his game.[atleast 95% of the time]Taufik on the other hand[who's got a reasonable draw and i dont think he will mind much whom he plays in the semis even though his record is not great against any one who might reach there,;if he does of course] is looking great right now.But he can be erratic at times.And I hope that is not the case at the WC.When he plays at his best he is the player to beat.Gade as always is been consistent.But all the recent encounters with Lin Dan[if they both make it] he has ended up on the losing side.that might play on him slightly.Coz i am sure he will play good.He will try and match Lin Dan rally for rally but in the end he needs to win it.the worst case scenario would be that if the 2 get to play each other ,Peter loses due to lack of stamina. DaN_fAn View Public Profile Send a private message to DaN_fAn Find More Posts by DaN_fAn Add DaN_fAn to Your Buddy List 08-11-2005, 11:17 PM #4 ants Location: Malaysia,Spore,TH,PhilippinesPosts: 3,945 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------But personally i think Peter Gade will have the crowd behind him if he does face Lin Dan in the finals. However this might not give him the edge to win over lindan. I think the person to look out for in this tournament is still Peter Gade. ants View Public Profile Send a private message to ants Find More Posts by ants Add ants to Your Buddy List 08-11-2005, 11:49 PM #5 rwchen Location: MalaysiaPosts: 70 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Quote:Originally Posted by antsBut personally i think Peter Gade will have the crowd behind him if he does face Lin Dan in the finals. However this might not give him the edge to win over lindan. I think the person to look out for in this tournament is still Peter Gade. 

Peter Gade and Lin Dan are in the same half, it's only possible for them to meet in the semifinal. rwchen View Public Profile Send a private message to rwchen Find More Posts by rwchen Add rwchen to Your Buddy List Yesterday, 08:46 AM #6 singhzico Location: TORONTO,CANADAPosts: 6 Zico --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Quote:Originally Posted by rwchenPeter Gade and Lin Dan are in the same half, it's only possible for them to meet in the semifinal. What about Chong wei or Hashim do they stand a chance? singhzico View Public Profile Send a private message to singhzico Find More Posts by singhzico Add singhzico to Your Buddy List Yesterday, 01:08 PM #7 henrileconte Location: ItalyPosts: 32 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lee probably will not win in my consideration, even though he has been in splendid form recently, but he won't have the Malaysian home support and he seems too regular to beat one of Gade, Lin or Taufik when they are on, and they certainly will be in form at the WC. Hafiz on the other hand is a completely different player, erratic sometimes. When he is in the right mood and woken up in a certain way he can beat everybody even when they are playing very well, because he is highly talented, just lacking confidence sometimes and consistency. But Still I would go for on of the three earlier mentioned favourites. henrileconte View Public Profile Send a private message to henrileconte Find More Posts by henrileconte Add henrileconte to Your Buddy List Yesterday, 04:54 PM #8 singhzico Location: TORONTO,CANADAPosts: 6 Bonjourno komosta --------------------------------------------------------------------------------[QUOTE=henrileconte]Lee probably will not win in my consideration, even though he has been in splendid form recently, but he won't have the Malaysian home support and he seems too regular to beat one of Gade, Lin or Taufik when they are on, and they certainly will be in form at the WC. Hafiz on the other hand is a completely different player, erratic sometimes. When he is in the right mood and woken up in a certain way he can beat everybody even when they are playing very well, because he is highly talented, just lacking confidence sometimes and consistency. But Still I would go for on of the three earlier mentioned favourites.[/QUO TE]Tutobene singhzico View Public Profile Send a private message to singhzico Find More Posts by singhzico Add singhzico to Your Buddy List Yesterday, 11:59 PM #9 kelana7 Location: MalaysiaPosts: 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------hi all,based on the WC draw, this is my predictionMS Semi Final:1. Lin Dan(Hafiz) vs Peter Gade(Chen Hong)2. Chong Wei(Bao Chun Lai) vs Taufik(Kenneth Jon)MS Final1. Lin Dan(Hafiz) vs Taufik(Chong Wei)

Highest chances Champion will be:1. Lin Dan2. Taufik/Chong Wei3. Hafiz kelana7 View Public Profile Send a private message to kelana7 Find More Posts by kelana7 Add kelana7 to Your Buddy List Today, 09:19 AM #10 Trance Location: Markham, Ontario, CanadaPosts: 296 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Why does everyone forget that Chen Hong won the All England title this year? I'd also like to point out that Hafiz hasn't really performed that well in the Singapore and Malaysia Open. Trance View Public Profile Send a private message to Trance Find More Posts by Trance Add Trance to Your Buddy List Today, 09:37 AM #11 ants Location: Malaysia,Spore,TH,PhilippinesPosts: 3,945 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Quote:Originally Posted by rwchenPeter Gade and Lin Dan are in the same half, it's only possible for them to meet in the semifinal. thanks.. i mean semifinals. ants View Public Profile Send a private message to ants Find More Posts by ants Add ants to Your Buddy List « Previous Thread | Next Thread » Thread Tools Show Printable Version Email this Page Subscribe to this Thread Display Modes Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode Search this Thread Advanced Search Rate This Thread You have already rated this thread Posting Rules You may post new threadsYou may post repliesYou may post attachmentsYou may edit your posts--------------------------------------------------------------------------------vB code is OnSmilies are On[IMG] code is OnHTML code is Off Forum Jump Please select one User Control Panel Private Messages Subscriptions Who's Online Search Forums Forums Home -------------------- Badminton Central Professional Players Forums Jonas Rasmussen Forum Thomas Laybourn Forum Professional Players Badminton Charity Auction Badminton Tournaments 2005 Tournaments Hong Kong Open / China Open / Chinese Taipei Open 2005 Denmark Open 2005 China Masters 2005 / Indonesian Open 2005 World Championships 2005 MVP Cup 2005 Singapore Open 2005 / Malaysia Open 2005 Sudirman Cup 2005 Thailand Open / Japan Open 2005 German Open / All England / Swiss Open 2005 Korea Open 2005 2001 - 2004, 2006 Tournaments 2006 Tournaments World Championships 2006 Thomas/Uber Cups 2006 2004 Tournaments 2003 Tournaments 2002 Tournaments 2001 Tournaments Tournament Video Sharing Badminton Central Discussion Forums General Forum Techniques / Training Coaching Forum Places to play Australia / New Zealand Canada West Canada East China / Hong Kong Europe Japan / Korea Malaysia Philippines Singapore Thailand UK USA West USA East Badminton Equipment Forums Equipment Forum Badminton Clothing Stringing Techniques Market Place Badminton Frequently Asked Question (FAQ) Badminton FAQs Badminton General FAQ Badminton Equipment FAQ BadmintonCentral / BadmintonForum FAQ Lounge Introduction Forum Feedback Chit-Chat Similar Threads Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post DVD collections Han Market Place 357 08-06-2005 06:53 PM 03 WC MS Quart Xuanze-Jonassen paulchow Tournament Video Sharing 20 06-13-2005 11:25 AM 5 days countdown - Sudirman Cup 2003 analysis, part 2 kwun Sudirman Cup 2003 8 03-13-2003 07:16 PM WC MS Final in Eurosport kwun 2001 Sudirman Cup / World Championships 2 06-13-2001 03:48 PM WC MS Next Stage Byro-Nenium 2001 Sudirman Cup / World Championships 3 06-08-2001 10:35 AM All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:44 AM. CyclingForum.org - - Contact Us - BadmintonCentral.com - Archive - Top All contents Copyright © 1998-2005 BadmintonCentral.com - vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2005, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. -