爱吃℃大橙子的个人资料

请DK战队挑选英雄！视频来自：http://tieba.baidu.com/mo/q/checkurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fv.youku.com%2Fv_show%2Fid_XMTM5MTMxMDc0MA%3D%3D.html&urlrefer=236839d5ab390c1133375765d9da0196

昨天麦霸龙神820 视频刚看到，我真是笑哭，不行了停不下来

MDL比赛现场人山人海！人山人海两兄弟怎么不坐第一排，反正也没人做

现在比赛只要十五分钟的时候切进去看下就好保证一定一方大优，然后不用看了，再等二十分钟进去看下一把的bp

现在比赛怎么都是一方碾压一方但是不觉得现在比赛非常无聊嘛，劣势很难翻，一般十多分钟优势的一方立马滚雪球，每局都是一方碾压一样，冰蛙提升打架金钱坚守farm资源造成前期打架赢的一方优势很大（尤其是酱油的经济加的很多，毕竟助攻钱多了），雪球滚的很大，一般都翻不了，冰蛙这次是不是改的有些过了？

TBD是哪的队？为什么各大赛事都保送决赛？好奇怪，有人能告诉下吗

StarLadder12最后饰品TB套加入后台！让我先缓缓我激动的小心脏，二楼上图！

IG最后一手小那家，膀胱荣耀不谈了，鱼人永不败！

欧洲战队以及gosu排名最大泡沫大声告诉我是谁？我不会告诉你，因为THAT IS A SECRET!

Starladdar 12 Secret vs MY Rtz又开始单机刷了，果然毒瘤，唯一一次参战是自己被抓了，其他所有团都是队友4v5，secret现在很崩！

今年ti中国队名额爆料大家不用分析来分析去了，六月份如果没有强势稳定的第四个中国队出现，中国区的名额是3+2+0.25，我舅舅告诉我的

newbee拿了esl中国区第二你们卜要黑他！ newbee多久没进决赛啦？

理性看Ehome.Mushi是不是顶级中单 Mushi作为曾经的世界顶级中单，现在转型辅助，很多人觉得为他不值，但是如果我们理性的来看待一下mushi现在的状态，其实可以理解一切事实也许有必然因素。 Mushi是2015年一月份加入Ehome，三月份离开。期间比赛样本不多，所以数据只能统计到亚洲邀请赛。本人认为在Ehome的mushi实在没有什么地方能让人印象深刻，之前在一位吧友的帖子里稍微吐槽了下这方面，我可以理解作为mushi粉丝的吧友对偶像的维护，但是你硬要说现在mushi多么亮我也是不太能理解。二楼虚空。

求昨晚CTY打爆刷分宝的比赛编号就是CTY火女打得多宝蓝猫最后1杀15死，四十分钟只要假腿大魔棒的那句。我很想知道蓝猫怎么六级前被火女单杀两次的……

s4 双杀 BG 稀有天怒头饰

【预测】下轮BG vs EG EG前两手ban大小娜迦！

┗┋▽YY人气美女主播歌舞表演，你们猜猜都有谁？×∟路过╂┠ ﹏≌♀—ω▊

虎牙员工专访：Pis比大家想象的更加成熟稳重一楼祭天！

神谕+哈斯卡无解最脏组合没有之一求问怎么破。什么以前的四大天王，什么护法，在神谕+哈斯卡面前就是渣渣！

大酒神是我见过直播最勤快的这么早就开直播了，果然是大酒神。附上我的早餐

IG又输了怎么连CDEC都可以随便虐我大直播队了，这是要化身鱼塘养鱼吗

今天VG IG就比一场？怎么没比赛了

一波华丽丽的11连败从下午五点打到晚上12点终于赢了，大家怎么看看KDA说实话大多数居都不是楼主坑。真心带不动。

B神直播为什么出现惊天翻盘的几率这么大 B神小小镇楼

做全英雄挑战有什么用？如题。

B神直播极限分身转属性一波 66666666666帅！

VH和H到底怎么判定的今天第一次查dotamax，发现一路连败还是都是VH。这东西怎么判定什么意思。

[转]折翼之鹰-TI4殿军DK战队纪录片 imbatv出品的记录片终于有dk的了。折翼之鹰-TI4殿军DK战队纪录片 http://tieba.baidu.com/mo/q/checkurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fv&urlrefer=37a343bd13014ed42b909943a1ea527c点youku点com/v_show/id_XNzY1MjE3NTMy点html

马甲哥终于找到了不被doom的方法，再也不怕被爸爸教做人了~ 开始手doom了。你看他又选doom了。挡不住了！！！！

转发Black于网友互动访谈，很多很有趣的问题哦一楼Black大照，black厉害CIS还是很可惜的

外国网友比较理性分析此次Ti的帖子【楼主只转发+翻译】 A Little Too Painful To Watch 题目：看得不太爽 I'm going to give my honest opinion about the hundreds of threads I had to watch because of this TI4: 在看了千百个Ti4的吐槽贴后，我来总结并发表下自己的看法。 Suck it up! 麻烦别再抱怨了！ Since I already read way too much about this, I came here with the idea of why many people that didn't like this TI: 看了那么多的吐槽贴，我先来说说为什么那么多的人不喜欢这次TI Butthurt fanboys: "[Insert name of your favorite team here] didn't make it to the main event and it was unfair because of the format of the groups. Had it been the last format I'm sure they'd have made it into the finals". With some minor this is 50% aprox of the reasons why people hate this TI. Well... there's nothing to say about this people other than root for your team to play better next TI (or even next tournaments). Either that or pray for chinese teams to lower their stardards so next time they'll be beatable. The other 50% of complains are spread between people wanting more hype to the finals, chinese haters, Valve haters, Icefrog haters, etc. 首先是那些因为支持自己喜爱战队而输了菠菜的粉丝：“全是比赛赛制的锅！”因为这个理由讨厌这次Ti的大概占了50%。对于这样的人没啥好说，只能希望你们所支持的战队可以在下次Ti努力加油，或者祈祷中国战队水平集体跳水。剩下50%的人的抱怨理由主要在总决赛无聊，单纯不喜欢中国队，单纯不喜欢V社以及单纯不喜欢icefrog。 Now I'll give my opinion about this TI: 下面是我对这次Ti的看法： Format: Not bad. As I read in some other topics, even a Bo2 is a little more fair than Bo1 between each team (but... COME ON. There where 15 BO1! your team had to win at least 6... that's kind of fair). That being said, making groupstage important was good enough to make teams really tryhard in most of the games (many, enjoyable). I think the idea is good in general and most of the games were really interesting. 赛制：还可以。当然也有人说小组赛的Bo1可能不太公平，也许Bo2会好些。这次的小组赛的赛制使得小组赛比以往更重要，演员普遍少了一些，比赛也更具观赏性。我觉得这个小组赛赛制挺好，而且大多数的小组赛比赛也很精彩。 Patch: A new patch WILL COME. I honestly think people is starting to think what VG or Newbee do is very easy. Ganking with two supports correctly, making the right calls of when to push, when to teamfight in the early game with just some of the items completed and at the maximun of the heroes capacities is NOT EASY. I bet most of teams can't do it correctly, that's why they don't do it. There are ways to counter it, I'm sure, but TI was way too short for any team to experiment trying to discover how. Since it's not evident and doesn't make the game too exciting, I think Icefrong is going to be forced to make a patch to make most of people able to survive deathballs. 修改：我们马上会看到一些对游戏的改动。我觉得很多人认为VG和Newbee的打法非常简单：双辅助游走gank，速度报团推进。但是这种打法要求对于时机、装备组合和执行力有很高的要求。而这些正是很多战队所不具备的。我相信一定有方法可以克制这种速推冲脸战术，但是Ti就那么几天，战队们没有足够的时间去研究开发新战术。于是比赛有时候就变得非常快以及无聊。我相信icefrog马上会作出一些改变来解决这个问题。 Teams: This is the worst part of all. It seems nobody knew Newbee or VG :S. Either that or they didn't like them. Newbee was basically TongFu -KingJ +Xiao8 from last year where they lost to Na'Vi in a game I want to forget. Had they win their game maybe other would have been the story from last TI. You can say whatever you want about them but they did work hard and play their best. VG also was a very good team... nobody expected them to go this far in TI4 but they did because of the strat they used, and even when it was obvious what they were doing, you just couldn't stop them. They're too good. 战队：这个理由实在扯淡。似乎很少有人认识Newbee或者VG，于是粉丝自然就少。Newbee其实主要由上届Ti的tongfu战队组成（KingJ换成了xiao8）.Tongfu上届里通过一轮非常难忘精彩的比赛输给了Navi，如果他们赢了Navi历史可能会改写。随便你说什么，Newbee的队员非常努力并且打出了最好的状态。VG也是一只很强的战队，没人能想到他们在这次Ti上可以走这么远，但是他们却用速推这个唯一的战术做到了这点。这个唯一的战术让他的对手无能为力，无可阻挡的推进。 Final: Yes, it was the worst final, but only because last year finals had game 5. Games 1-4 from last year were not only outplays but joke games between [A] and Na'Vi. The best finals were between Na'Vi and iG Ti2 (still the best TI). 总决赛：这确实是最无聊的一次决赛。不过我觉得大家落差这么大的原因是上届Ti的第五场实在是太史诗了（前面四场就是A队和Navi在互彪演技）。我个人最喜欢的Ti总决赛是Ti2，Navi和IG之间的对决，而且觉得Ti2也是最好的一届Ti。 To sum up: The problem with this TI wasn't the fact that the finals were boring or that the format was wrong... the problem was that the hype was gone since most EU, and NA teams were gone AT THE BEGINNING. This is not TI4's fault, Valve's fault, Icefrog's fault, but teams faults. Your favorite teams didn't make it up to your expectations nor your rivals expectations. It's not chinese teams fault that deathball push strat was enough to win this TI4. 综上所述：大家吐槽这次Ti的主要原因即不是决赛太无聊也不是赛制不合理，而是因为大多数呼声很高的北美欧洲战队过早的离开。这不是Ti的错，也不是V社的错，更不是Icefrog的错，这是战队自己的错。你们支持的战队没有达到你们的预期。你们吐槽中国战队只会速推那是因为中国战队知道速推这种战术已经足够可以赢下比赛。 So... (I can't believe I'm saying this) I expect EU teams to recover and win some international tournaments so the hype is real... I'm personally going to root for Empire (totally dissapointed by them btw) or any team Black ends up in (if he goes back to Europe). Now please move forward and root for your team in the next event. 在结尾，我希望欧洲的战队可以重新站起来，我个人支持Empire虽然这次他非常令我失望，我希望小B神可以回到欧洲战队。大家一起来支持自己的战队重新启航吧！

给那些说DK打得丑的 Lion+剑圣双游走丑？巨魔sven海民物理冲脸丑？梅肯sf大牛双减甲丑？DK除了某些比赛，这次ti二十多场比赛大多数给我都感觉眼前一亮。我知道这次Ti后DK估计也不再是现在这支DK了，但是我会一如既往的支持这种多变强调创新的打法，这才是dota的魅力所在。附上DK此次ti2使用英雄情况 dk一共使用了43个英雄，仅比lgd少一个（因为少打了5场？）仅使用1次的为22个，约占英雄总数的51% 其中，斯文、毒龙、海民、尸王、电棍、末日各2次，龙骑、兽王、拍拍、炼金、狼人、熊猫、船长、伐木机、大牛各1次肉核使用次数为21，占总使用次数85的25%

DK这届Ti打得丑？剑圣lion双游走丑？sven巨魔海民输出冲脸丑？梅肯Sf大牛削甲丑？排除个别比赛，我反倒觉得DK总体这次ti二十多场比赛是打得最有自己想法套路的，是dota多变打法的代表。

这次Ti4决赛虽然无聊，但是其余比赛还是很不错的这次Ti让我记住了C9的偷鸡猥琐赏金，Liquid的Tk，Titan的蹲哥沙王，EG的谜团，LGD的人马卡尔体系，DK的剑圣Lion双游走以及一二号位的Sven巨魔二人组顺带海民帮切入。相比之下A队和Navi反倒没什么亮点。所以大家不能因为决赛的失望而强行dota2向某游戏靠拢。

这次Ti4决赛确实无聊，但是其余比赛还是挺精彩的 C9的让人蛋疼的赏金，Liquid的TK，EG的谜团，DK的lion和剑圣双游走已经巨魔sven的一二号位，LGD的卡尔人马，泰坦的蹲哥沙王。相比还真觉得A队和Navi整容打法没什么亮点。大家不能因为决赛无聊就强行说靠拢某游戏。

DK IG先后出局个人观点 DK IG这两支在中国人气最高的战队遗憾出局了，纵观这次Ti4他们的表现，我觉得主要就是因为他们战队打法过于多变。相比VG Newbee，IG DK的英雄池应该是更深的，但是过深的英雄池就造成他们经常不知道到底用什么整容好（尤其DK），时常感觉一会儿打推进，一会儿打gank保大哥。这样不明确的战队打发，就会造成自己对各个体系的相对不熟练，节奏感不强。你看VG打法从头到尾就是肉核抱团速推，带一定推进能力的双辅助保三线（不管是游走还是杠三），保证三线不蹦的情况下速度出核心装备抱团推进，非常明确自己前中后期各个阶段的节奏打法，执行力极强。反之，由于DK IG整容太多变，时常会出现某个时段节奏不明，从而影响最后结果。所以我觉得打大赛还是应该准备一种自己熟练的打法，熟悉自己的节奏，相信自己的体系。