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挚爱EthanHunt
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这封邮件是他在6月10号早上发给我的，后来我给他发了一封邮件他就没有再回复了，不知道是不是因为那边限制了互联网访问。
中文翻译（DS翻译，省略开头结尾）：
希望这封邮件顺利送达。
非常感谢你的来信，也感谢你的善意言辞。我很高兴能与你进行富有智慧且意义深远的通信与对话。我相信能从你身上学到很多，也希望我的邮件能为你带来启发。
我对中国的现在与过去怀有真挚的敬意。中国是人类文明皇冠上一颗伟大、壮丽而辉煌的瑰宝。
感谢你对我国家及现状的关注。我不仅没有感到冒犯，反而很乐意探讨此类话题。
你说得对，当前伊朗地缘政治与外交事务中最重要且广泛讨论的议题便是与特朗普政府的核谈判及协议。遗憾的是，我国政府在此事上至今未走上正确轨道。
我是现实政治的信仰者，并遵循这一国际关系学派。唯一能制衡权力的，是对手的权力。外交是通过实力捍卫国家利益，而非乞求怜悯与和平。当然，外交的目标包括避免战争、通过非军事手段实现诉求，但这些必须依托力量达成，而非空谈幻想。即便一国实力有限，仍可通过战略联盟增强自身、削弱对手地位。
我国外交部许多长期任职者却是白日梦者与理想主义者，仿佛活在平行宇宙！他们以为只要扮演“好人”、试图建立信任，美国就会接受和平方案。这很危险。
我个人支持并敬仰最高领袖。若非他作为武装力量总司令与外交总路线仲裁者的角色，我国国家安全将陷入更严峻的危机。
可悲的是，许多外交决策者是蠢材、叛徒与江湖骗子，这已损害我国国家利益与安全。
我并非反对与美国谈判或达成协议，但坚持认为：要争取对伊朗民众有利的结果，必须打出实力牌，通过威慑与威胁创造谈判筹码，并依托国家力量迫使对手让步。例如，我们的谈判代表本应利用与也门胡塞武装的联盟关系，或与中国、俄罗斯的战术合作，从美国政府手中夺回伊朗应得权益。但这需要摒弃“乞求式外交”或“天下大同”的幼稚幻想。
我们对美国的承诺应仅限于《不扩散核武器条约》框架，绝不多让。伊朗与其他国家一样是主权国家。可悲的是，我们已付出太多代价，如今却在重蹈覆辙！历史会严惩重复错误者。
我认为伊朗发展核技术的初衷兼具实际需求（能源供应、应对未来危机、医疗、农业）与国防信号意义（“若你威胁我生存，我可能发展核武”）。上世纪90年代末（经历革命前后阶段尝试后），我们开启了最新一轮核计划。当时苏联解体，俄罗斯虚弱，世界单极化，美国与北约在中东横行，伊朗四面受敌。因此，核技术既是现实需要，也是谈判筹码——至少我国部分高层（包括革命前后两时期）如此认为。巴列维时期，政府曾支付法国引进核技术，却被骗走资金（至今未归还！），这解释了为何伊朗选择自主发展。
美国制裁绝非无害，但我确信：若非政策制定存在重大缺陷与腐败寡头干预（他们甚至能阻挠最高领袖的决策），伊朗人民不会陷入当前困境，以至于多次投票给无能者。即便达成协议，受益者也是腐败寡头而非人民，这是最可悲的现实。
许多伊朗人与我观点相左。经济重压下，他们难以意识到问题主因是腐败与管理不善，而非制裁。叛徒与寡头刻意恶化局势，让民众相信屈服美国才是出路。为何？因为他们想将赃款转移至加美英法，送子女出国！
中国以极度严肃的态度反腐，这正是我钦佩之处。
选举结果未必完全反映民意，但可管中窥豹：与我理念相近者（坚决反对外部干涉、聚焦内部改革）多投票给赛义德·贾利利（超1300万人）；而认为“达成协议”是首要解决方案者（多受蒙蔽）则支持马苏德·佩泽希基安（约1600万人）。后者胜选将我们带入高风险迷局，可能危及国家安全——但这不意味着毫无希望。
顺带一提，我认为前总统莱希直升机坠毁是以色列和/或美国的恐怖暗杀。许多伊朗民众持此观点，但官方说法不同。
希望我的观点表述清晰。
我认为全球正处于重大变革的开端。这是敏感而危险的时代，赢家将在多极化新秩序中占据优势。
感谢阅读。很荣幸与你通信。期待你的批评、提问与观点交锋——此类话题中无人绝对正确。:-)
祝你一切安好，愿日夜充满欢愉与宁静。
英文原文（删去段落间空格）：
I hope this email reaches you well.
Thank you very much for your email. Thanks for your kind words. I'm pleased to engage in intellectual and meaningful correspondence and conversations with you. I'm sure I will learn from you, and I hope you find my emails insightful.
I have genuine respect for China's present and past. China is a great, magnificent and glorious gem of the crown of humanity
Thank you for your interest in my country and its present-day status. Not only am I not offended, but also I am delighted to discuss this and similar issues.
You are right about the fact that currently the most important and widely-discussed issue in Iran's geopolitical and foreign policy affairs is the nuclear talks and the deal with the Trump administration. Unfortunately, my country's government has not been following the right track in this regard so far
I am a believer in realpolitik. I follow this school of thought in international relations. The only thing that can stop power is the other side's power. Diplomacy is executing power for protecting national interests, not begging for mercy and peace. Yes, among the aims of diplomacy are maintaining peace and achieving goals without engaging in war, but these aims are realized through power and strength, not talking nonsense thinking that would lead to peace and friendship. Even when there are limitations in a nation's power, the state can enhance the position of the nation-state through partnerships and alliances that strengthen the national power and weaken the position of the adversaries
Many of the guys working for years at our Ministry of Foreign Affairs are dreamers who daydream, and idealists who seem to live in another parallel universe! They think the US would be inclined to accept peaceful resolutions if we are good guys and if we try to build trust. That's dangerous.
I personally support, admire and appreciate our Supreme Leader. If it weren't for his role as the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces and the mediator of the general path of the foreign relations, we would be in a dire and dark situation and dangerous state of national security
Regrettably, many of our officials who are responsible for foreign policy are fools, traitors, betrayers and charlatans. That has posed harm to my country's national interests and national security.
I don't say we should not or cannot negotiate with the US, nor do I say that we cannot reach a deal, but I assert that reaching beneficial outcomes serving the interests of Iranian citizens demands and requires playing with cards of real power, intimidating and threatening the other side to achieve certain goals, and creating a context in which the nation and its negotiators can rely on elements of the state's power to get desirable actions from the enemy. For example, our negotiators should have played with the card of alliance with Yemen's Houthis, and should have made tactical moves in partnerships with the People's Republic of China and the Russian Federation to get back some of the rights of the Iranian nation from the US Government. All that would be possible if the negotiators do not have a silly mentality of daydreaming and belief in "begging diplomacy" or childish view of "Let's all be friends.
All we should promise the US is remaining in NPT, not more, not beyond. We're a sovereign country like other nations. Woefully, we have gone through much more, been harmed, and now we are repeating the mistake! Time punishes people who repeat mistakes very badly.I think Iran's initial steps and the beginning points to develop nuclear technology were out of genuine technological needs and purposes (energy supply, a solution for the forthcoming energy crisis, medicine, farming), as well as the possibility of using nuclear power as a signalling tool for national defence ("if you pose existential threats, we are potentially able to pursue nuclear weapons"). We started the recent and the most important wave of our attempts in the late 1990s (after past stages of attempts in pre- and post-revolution eras). At that time, the Soviet Union had collapsed, and the Russian Federation was miserable. The world was monopolar. The US and NATO were hyperactive in the Middle East, and Iran was surrounded by the enemies. So, I think developing nuclear technology is both a response to real needs, and a bargaining chip. At least that is what has been in the minds of some high-ranking officials of my country (in both the post-revolutionary political system and the former pre-revolution monarchy regime). During the years of the regime of the former king of Iran, the Iranian government paid the French to import nuclear technology and related equipment and materials, but they received the money (still have not paid it back!) and did nothing. So there can be no surprise Iran acted independently
I don't think US sanctions are harmless and cannot harm, but I say assertively and with certainty that I am sure if the policymaking and management did not involve too many flaws and failures, and if it weren't for the corrupt oligarchs (who are so powerful that can sometimes stop the Supreme Leader from what he wants to do), Iranian people would not be in the current ordeal that has led them to believe fools and traitors and to vote for the incompetent for several times. Even if we reach a deal, the deal will serve the corrupt oligarchs, not the people, and that is the saddest reality.
Many Iranians do not think as I do. They are under too much economic and financial pressure, and they cannot understand that only a small part of that is due to the sanctions and embargoes, the rest being the result of corruption and mismanagement. The traitors and betrayers and the corrupt oligarchs worsen the situation to make people believe we should submit to the US, and that's the solution. Why do the corrupt oligarchs and officials do that? Because they want to transfer capital (stolen money) to Canada, US, UK and France, and because they want to send their kids abroad
Among the many things I admire China for is fighting corruption with utmost seriousness. That's of critical importance
I don't think that would lead to totally accurate estimation and a fully clear image if one claims the whole group of voters voting for someone support certain ideas, but that can give a partially relevant image: People with ideas similar to those of mine (that we should stand firmly against foreign adversaries and should focus on fixing the internal policies) are mostly those who voted for Saeed Jalili (more than 13,000,000 people), and those people (mainly deceived) who think "reaching a deal" is the most important solution are the people who voted for Masoud Pezeshkian (roughly 16,000,000 people) in 2024 Iranian presidential election. Pezeshkian won, and that's why we're now in this high-risk maze, with potential dire consequences for national security. By that, I don't mean that there is no hope
By the way, I think the crash of the helicopter which carried Iran's former president, late Ebrahim Raisi was an act of terrorism and assasination by Israel and/or the US. There is a significant number of Iranian citizens who share this view, but the official narrative is different
I hope I have been able to make my points clear and easy to grasp
I think we are at the beginning of important changes on a global scale. This is a sensitive and risky age, and nations who win the game, will have the upper hand in the new age of the world's multipolar system.
Thank you for reading. I'm glad and honored to exchange emails with you. I would be happy to know what you think. Please feel free to criticize, ask questions and challenge my viewpoints. In these topics, nobody is 100% right. :-)
I wish you all the best, and I hope you have a great time. I wish you joy and peace for the days and nights to come.
2025年06月14日 12点06分
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中文翻译（DS翻译，省略开头结尾）：
希望这封邮件顺利送达。
非常感谢你的来信，也感谢你的善意言辞。我很高兴能与你进行富有智慧且意义深远的通信与对话。我相信能从你身上学到很多，也希望我的邮件能为你带来启发。
我对中国的现在与过去怀有真挚的敬意。中国是人类文明皇冠上一颗伟大、壮丽而辉煌的瑰宝。
感谢你对我国家及现状的关注。我不仅没有感到冒犯，反而很乐意探讨此类话题。
你说得对，当前伊朗地缘政治与外交事务中最重要且广泛讨论的议题便是与特朗普政府的核谈判及协议。遗憾的是，我国政府在此事上至今未走上正确轨道。
我是现实政治的信仰者，并遵循这一国际关系学派。唯一能制衡权力的，是对手的权力。外交是通过实力捍卫国家利益，而非乞求怜悯与和平。当然，外交的目标包括避免战争、通过非军事手段实现诉求，但这些必须依托力量达成，而非空谈幻想。即便一国实力有限，仍可通过战略联盟增强自身、削弱对手地位。
我国外交部许多长期任职者却是白日梦者与理想主义者，仿佛活在平行宇宙！他们以为只要扮演“好人”、试图建立信任，美国就会接受和平方案。这很危险。
我个人支持并敬仰最高领袖。若非他作为武装力量总司令与外交总路线仲裁者的角色，我国国家安全将陷入更严峻的危机。
可悲的是，许多外交决策者是蠢材、叛徒与江湖骗子，这已损害我国国家利益与安全。
我并非反对与美国谈判或达成协议，但坚持认为：要争取对伊朗民众有利的结果，必须打出实力牌，通过威慑与威胁创造谈判筹码，并依托国家力量迫使对手让步。例如，我们的谈判代表本应利用与也门胡塞武装的联盟关系，或与中国、俄罗斯的战术合作，从美国政府手中夺回伊朗应得权益。但这需要摒弃“乞求式外交”或“天下大同”的幼稚幻想。
我们对美国的承诺应仅限于《不扩散核武器条约》框架，绝不多让。伊朗与其他国家一样是主权国家。可悲的是，我们已付出太多代价，如今却在重蹈覆辙！历史会严惩重复错误者。
我认为伊朗发展核技术的初衷兼具实际需求（能源供应、应对未来危机、医疗、农业）与国防信号意义（“若你威胁我生存，我可能发展核武”）。上世纪90年代末（经历革命前后阶段尝试后），我们开启了最新一轮核计划。当时苏联解体，俄罗斯虚弱，世界单极化，美国与北约在中东横行，伊朗四面受敌。因此，核技术既是现实需要，也是谈判筹码——至少我国部分高层（包括革命前后两时期）如此认为。巴列维时期，政府曾支付法国引进核技术，却被骗走资金（至今未归还！），这解释了为何伊朗选择自主发展。
美国制裁绝非无害，但我确信：若非政策制定存在重大缺陷与腐败寡头干预（他们甚至能阻挠最高领袖的决策），伊朗人民不会陷入当前困境，以至于多次投票给无能者。即便达成协议，受益者也是腐败寡头而非人民，这是最可悲的现实。
许多伊朗人与我观点相左。经济重压下，他们难以意识到问题主因是腐败与管理不善，而非制裁。叛徒与寡头刻意恶化局势，让民众相信屈服美国才是出路。为何？因为他们想将赃款转移至加美英法，送子女出国！
中国以极度严肃的态度反腐，这正是我钦佩之处。
选举结果未必完全反映民意，但可管中窥豹：与我理念相近者（坚决反对外部干涉、聚焦内部改革）多投票给赛义德·贾利利（超1300万人）；而认为“达成协议”是首要解决方案者（多受蒙蔽）则支持马苏德·佩泽希基安（约1600万人）。后者胜选将我们带入高风险迷局，可能危及国家安全——但这不意味着毫无希望。
顺带一提，我认为前总统莱希直升机坠毁是以色列和/或美国的恐怖暗杀。许多伊朗民众持此观点，但官方说法不同。
希望我的观点表述清晰。
我认为全球正处于重大变革的开端。这是敏感而危险的时代，赢家将在多极化新秩序中占据优势。
感谢阅读。很荣幸与你通信。期待你的批评、提问与观点交锋——此类话题中无人绝对正确。:-)
祝你一切安好，愿日夜充满欢愉与宁静。
英文原文（删去段落间空格）：
I hope this email reaches you well.
Thank you very much for your email. Thanks for your kind words. I'm pleased to engage in intellectual and meaningful correspondence and conversations with you. I'm sure I will learn from you, and I hope you find my emails insightful.
I have genuine respect for China's present and past. China is a great, magnificent and glorious gem of the crown of humanity
Thank you for your interest in my country and its present-day status. Not only am I not offended, but also I am delighted to discuss this and similar issues.
You are right about the fact that currently the most important and widely-discussed issue in Iran's geopolitical and foreign policy affairs is the nuclear talks and the deal with the Trump administration. Unfortunately, my country's government has not been following the right track in this regard so far
I am a believer in realpolitik. I follow this school of thought in international relations. The only thing that can stop power is the other side's power. Diplomacy is executing power for protecting national interests, not begging for mercy and peace. Yes, among the aims of diplomacy are maintaining peace and achieving goals without engaging in war, but these aims are realized through power and strength, not talking nonsense thinking that would lead to peace and friendship. Even when there are limitations in a nation's power, the state can enhance the position of the nation-state through partnerships and alliances that strengthen the national power and weaken the position of the adversaries
Many of the guys working for years at our Ministry of Foreign Affairs are dreamers who daydream, and idealists who seem to live in another parallel universe! They think the US would be inclined to accept peaceful resolutions if we are good guys and if we try to build trust. That's dangerous.
I personally support, admire and appreciate our Supreme Leader. If it weren't for his role as the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces and the mediator of the general path of the foreign relations, we would be in a dire and dark situation and dangerous state of national security
Regrettably, many of our officials who are responsible for foreign policy are fools, traitors, betrayers and charlatans. That has posed harm to my country's national interests and national security.
I don't say we should not or cannot negotiate with the US, nor do I say that we cannot reach a deal, but I assert that reaching beneficial outcomes serving the interests of Iranian citizens demands and requires playing with cards of real power, intimidating and threatening the other side to achieve certain goals, and creating a context in which the nation and its negotiators can rely on elements of the state's power to get desirable actions from the enemy. For example, our negotiators should have played with the card of alliance with Yemen's Houthis, and should have made tactical moves in partnerships with the People's Republic of China and the Russian Federation to get back some of the rights of the Iranian nation from the US Government. All that would be possible if the negotiators do not have a silly mentality of daydreaming and belief in "begging diplomacy" or childish view of "Let's all be friends.
All we should promise the US is remaining in NPT, not more, not beyond. We're a sovereign country like other nations. Woefully, we have gone through much more, been harmed, and now we are repeating the mistake! Time punishes people who repeat mistakes very badly.I think Iran's initial steps and the beginning points to develop nuclear technology were out of genuine technological needs and purposes (energy supply, a solution for the forthcoming energy crisis, medicine, farming), as well as the possibility of using nuclear power as a signalling tool for national defence ("if you pose existential threats, we are potentially able to pursue nuclear weapons"). We started the recent and the most important wave of our attempts in the late 1990s (after past stages of attempts in pre- and post-revolution eras). At that time, the Soviet Union had collapsed, and the Russian Federation was miserable. The world was monopolar. The US and NATO were hyperactive in the Middle East, and Iran was surrounded by the enemies. So, I think developing nuclear technology is both a response to real needs, and a bargaining chip. At least that is what has been in the minds of some high-ranking officials of my country (in both the post-revolutionary political system and the former pre-revolution monarchy regime). During the years of the regime of the former king of Iran, the Iranian government paid the French to import nuclear technology and related equipment and materials, but they received the money (still have not paid it back!) and did nothing. So there can be no surprise Iran acted independently
I don't think US sanctions are harmless and cannot harm, but I say assertively and with certainty that I am sure if the policymaking and management did not involve too many flaws and failures, and if it weren't for the corrupt oligarchs (who are so powerful that can sometimes stop the Supreme Leader from what he wants to do), Iranian people would not be in the current ordeal that has led them to believe fools and traitors and to vote for the incompetent for several times. Even if we reach a deal, the deal will serve the corrupt oligarchs, not the people, and that is the saddest reality.
Many Iranians do not think as I do. They are under too much economic and financial pressure, and they cannot understand that only a small part of that is due to the sanctions and embargoes, the rest being the result of corruption and mismanagement. The traitors and betrayers and the corrupt oligarchs worsen the situation to make people believe we should submit to the US, and that's the solution. Why do the corrupt oligarchs and officials do that? Because they want to transfer capital (stolen money) to Canada, US, UK and France, and because they want to send their kids abroad
Among the many things I admire China for is fighting corruption with utmost seriousness. That's of critical importance
I don't think that would lead to totally accurate estimation and a fully clear image if one claims the whole group of voters voting for someone support certain ideas, but that can give a partially relevant image: People with ideas similar to those of mine (that we should stand firmly against foreign adversaries and should focus on fixing the internal policies) are mostly those who voted for Saeed Jalili (more than 13,000,000 people), and those people (mainly deceived) who think "reaching a deal" is the most important solution are the people who voted for Masoud Pezeshkian (roughly 16,000,000 people) in 2024 Iranian presidential election. Pezeshkian won, and that's why we're now in this high-risk maze, with potential dire consequences for national security. By that, I don't mean that there is no hope
By the way, I think the crash of the helicopter which carried Iran's former president, late Ebrahim Raisi was an act of terrorism and assasination by Israel and/or the US. There is a significant number of Iranian citizens who share this view, but the official narrative is different
I hope I have been able to make my points clear and easy to grasp
I think we are at the beginning of important changes on a global scale. This is a sensitive and risky age, and nations who win the game, will have the upper hand in the new age of the world's multipolar system.
Thank you for reading. I'm glad and honored to exchange emails with you. I would be happy to know what you think. Please feel free to criticize, ask questions and challenge my viewpoints. In these topics, nobody is 100% right. :-)
I wish you all the best, and I hope you have a great time. I wish you joy and peace for the days and nights to come.
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