Gordon Holmes: So, you’ve got that weird tribe of five and they told you they were voting for Donathan and they told him they were voting for you. I’m trying to understand why Donathan was trying to save you because they didn’t show much of a relationship there. And him not playing the idol for you seems like it’d just upset you as you were heading to the jury.
所以，你们在一个诡异的五人TC里，而多数派告诉你和Donathan去走另一个人。我试着去理解为什么Donathan试着救你因为剪辑没表示出你们的关系。而他没有对你使用神像看起来让你更沮丧的去了jury
Jenna Bowman: My thought process was; here I am, we have a small tribe so maybe I can take control. Naviti still has the numbers but it’s the three Navitis that are the least strategic and on the bottom. I approached them and they were still Naviti strong, so it didn’t work. The next thing was, I’m close to Sebastian. He said, “I want you to see your dad tomorrow. Let’s vote for Donathan.” I said, “Perfect.” In my mind, I want Donathan to think it’s me so he won’t play his idol. Then, Donathan says he’d be willing to play his idol for me if I voted for Sebastian. We didn’t have a relationship, so it felt like a trap. It was really strange. I told him I’d do it. It’d be a Plan B for him to play the idol on me. And obviously that did not work.
我的想法是：现在我们有一个小的部落或许我可以控制什么事情。Naviti还是有人数但是这是最没有策略的三个底层，我试着和他们谈但是他们还是坚守Naviti，所以这没有成功。所以下一步就是我找到和我亲近的Seb，他说：“明天我想让你看到你爸爸，让我们走掉Donathan”我说：“这太棒了”在我的想法里，我想让Donathan认为我要走人这样他就不会用神像了。然后，Donathan说我愿意为你用神像如果我们一起投Seb。但我跟他没什么亲密的关系，所以这感觉像是一个陷阱，十分奇怪。我告诉他我会这么做，我的普兰B是他给我用神像。很明显这没有成功
Holmes: I just can’t get into his thought process.
我还是不懂Donathan的想法
Bowman: I think he was trying to make a move. I think he wanted something on his resume. So, if he was noble and played it for an old Malolo alliance and got a Naviti that it’d be this amazing thing. I don’t know. I have no idea what his thought process was. That plan didn’t work out because I didn’t take it too seriously.
我觉得他就是想做一个大招，在自己的简历里写一点东西。所以如果他为老Malolo用了神像赶走一个Naviti的就太棒了。我不知道，我也不懂他在想什么，这个计划没有成功因为我没有把他当真。

Holmes: At Tribal you wanted to get to the vote quickly, which to me meant you thought either Donathan was going home or he was going to protect you. What was behind that move?
在TC的时候你想快点投票，为什么呢？
Bowman: I was hoping either one would work. I thought that acting like it was for sure me that Donathan would realize it wasn’t him and he’d feel bad for me. It was just an awkward Tribal. None of them wanted to talk, so I was like, “Time to vote.” I wanted to keep our plans on lock.
我希望我的两个计划（1.Donathan回家 2.Donathan给我用神像）成功。我想如果我表现的是我走定了这样Donathan会觉得不会是他并且会对我很同情。这个TC真的太诡异了，没有人想说些什么。所以我就想快点投票让计划锁定
Holmes: At that point in the game, Laurel and Donathan have a bond with Wendell and Domenick. Is that something you had a hunch about?
你感受到LDDW这个四人组了吗
Bowman: Everyone knew Laurel and Wendell were close. But I don’t think we knew that those four were an actual group. Donathan was always close with Naviti, that’s why we never trusted him. He was always hanging out with Angela or Chelsea. For Donathan, I never knew he was in that alliance.
所有人都知道Laurel和Wendell铁，但是我不知道他们真的是一个四人盟。Donathan一直和Naviti很亲近，这是我们从没有相信过他的原因。他一直和Chelsea或Angela一起玩。对Donathan来说，我一直不知道他在那个盟里

Holmes: Chris said that while you were out there, there wasn’t any hint that you and Sebastian were forming a relationship. However, it seems like that has happened outside of the game. I want to read you a quick excerpt from our pre-game interview…
Chris说你和Seb在比赛时没有真正的交往，但你们在外面好像真的这么做了，所以我想读一段我们赛前对你的采访...
Bowman: (Laughs)
Holmes: This is what you had to say about Sebastian, “Future husband. Move to Fiji, raise our kids like little Fijians.”
你赛前是这么形容Seb的“未来的老公，搬去斐济，孩子会像小斐济人一样”
Bowman: (Laughs) It’s the weirdest thing. Everyone flies over together, we sat next to each other on the plane. You’re not allowed to talk to each other, but the chemistry…it somehow started there. Then at Ponderosa. We were on separate tribes when we started, but after the swap, he said, “If we weren’t in this game we’d be dating. I think you’re amazing.” He opened the gates with that. But after that, he wouldn’t talk strategy with me. We’d hold hands at night, but that was it. We were never viewed as power couple. And once I got voted out by him I was pretty salty. And when we got home everything changed.
这真的是最古怪的事情了。所有人都在一起飞，我和seb的座位就在一起，我们不能跟对方说话，但是化学反应已经发生了。赛前在Ponderosa的时候也是。然后我们在不同的部落开始，在换组后，他说“如果我们不在游戏里的话就会约会了，我觉得你超棒der”但是之后，他从不跟我谈策略。我们只在晚上偷偷牵手。我们从没被视作强力二人组，被他淘汰之后是十分苦涩的事情。但是当我们回家之后一切都不一样了
Holmes: What’s the conversation like last night when you have to watch your boyfriend vote you out of “Survivor”?
昨晚看到被你男友淘汰之后的反应是什么？
Bowman: Last night I started a text with “You lied to me.” And we are officially in our first fight right now. We had to go from reliving him voting me out to watching Michael and my Ponderosa video with…there are some scenes in there that are a little racy. So, we’re dealing with that right now.
昨晚我给他发短信“你骗了我” 然后我们正式开启了我们第一次的吵架。我们必须要处理一些发生在那个时候的事情了
Holmes: Oh goodness.
哦天哪

Holmes: Alright, word association time. Let’s start with Chelsea.
Bowman: Nothing, just regular. 普普通通
Holmes: Brendan?
Bowman: DILF, still. 极具吸引力的男人
Holmes: Laurel?
Bowman: Impressive.印象深刻
Holmes: Libby?
Bowman: Angelic.像天使一样
Holmes: Michael?
Bowman: Talented.有才
Holmes: James?
Bowman: Level-headed.头脑清晰
Holmes: Bradley?
Bowman: There are two versions of Bradley…I’ll say calculated. Bradley有两副面孔...我会说有计划的
Holmes: Desiree?
Bowman: A cool bad ass. 超酷的！
Holmes: Gonzalez?
Bowman: Spicy. 火辣
Holmes: Chris?
Bowman: (Laughs) Character. 很有性格
Holmes: Domenick?
Bowman: Loud and obnoxious. 吵闹并讨厌
Holmes: Jacob?
Bowman: I don’t really know him. Weird and goofy. 我不是很熟悉他 很古怪
Holmes: Kellyn?
Bowman: Mama bear…personable. 熊妈妈 有风度
Holmes: Wendell?
Bowman: He’s smooth.圆滑
Holmes: Stephanie?
Bowman: Queen. 女王
Holmes: Angela?
Bowman: No comment. 不予置评
Holmes: Donathan?
Bowman: Spirited and gay. 十分有精力 开心（或者太gay了？）
Holmes: Let’s finish with Sea Bass.
Bowman: Hot.性感

Holmes: Why did we get a no-comment for Angela? What was your relationship like with her?
为什么不评论张韶涵？你是张韶涵黑子吗？
Bowman: It just wasn’t there. Her and Chelsea…they’re just kind of there. Wet blankets.
她和Chelsea就是没有存在感 比较扫兴
Holmes: We didn’t get to see much of you, which is unfortunate. Was there anything that happened that you wish we’d seen?
有什么想让我们看到的事情吗？
Bowman: There are no specific moves. When you don’t have the numbers and you don’t have options…we’re on the bottom. There was a reason I made it this far. I was scrappy and did my best to maintain relationships. I wanted to play this game. I can be very controlling and manipulative, but I wasn’t allowed to. I was constantly shut down. There was this wall up. It was frustrating.
我没有什么实际的动作，因为你没有人数和选择，在底层。我走这么远是有原因的，因为我很散乱并做了最大的努力维持关系，我想玩这个游戏，我可以操控人心的，但是我不允许这么做。我一直被压制，这很郁闷
Holmes: I hope you and Sebastian are able to clear all of this up, because I definitely want to hang out with you guys in Fiji.
我希望你和Seb重归于好 想和你们一起去斐济玩 呜呜
Bowman: (Laughs) We’re still having the wedding there for sure. You’ll have to come out.
我们肯定会在斐济办婚礼的

下一位Michael
Gordon Holmes: A vote for Laurel would have bought you another round. That’s gotta be heartbreaking.
一票Laurel就可以让你续命，现在想想肯定很伤心吧
Michael Yerger: It’s hard. Hindsight is 20/20. It sucks knowing I was so close. I was pretty confident going into it that we were going to get a blindside on Wendell. But, me and Kellyn didn’t know how close Wendell and Laurel were. It was hard. I wish I knew. But, me, Laurel, and Kellyn, the plan was to blindside Wendell.
这很难，事后诸葛亮肯定是很通透的。知道我曾经这么接近很糟心，我很自信计划是与两个女生BD Wendell，可是我和Kellyn不知道他和Laurel那么亲密，我希望我知道这一点。
Holmes: Honestly, the whole, “Hey, I have an idol, but I’m not going to show it to you.” It blows my mind that that worked on Kellyn. Why do you think she bought it?
讲真，你对Kellyn的假神像策略竟然对她生效了让我大吃一惊，为什么她会相信？
Yerger: I really think it was because I’d talked to Donathan about it. I knew what the idol was. I knew which season it was from. I seemed to know everything about it. It gave me ammunition to use in that lie. On the beach I was able to say it’s the super idol from Kaoh Rong and blah blah blah. She didn’t question it. And she knew I’d been looking for idols out there when I could. So, I don’t think it was hard to her believe. But, Dom was an idol guy out there too, so he wised up pretty quickly. I reached out to Donathan to see if he’d let me use the idol to help me, so that sucked that he was a little bit selfish in that way.
我觉得是我和Donathan谈过神像的事情，我知道这个神像的所有信息，这给我足够的信息去撒谎了。我就在沙滩上跟她说这个神像的历史，是来自32季的啦blahblah，她从没有任何疑问。并且她知道我一直在找神像。所以我觉得让她相信不是一件困难的事。但是Dom也是一个精通神像的人，所以他立刻就识破了。我找到Donathan去问能不能把神像借给我，看到他那么自私是有点糟心。
Holmes: So Kellyn never asked to see the idol?
所以Kellyn从没有要求去看这个神像？
Yerger: She never once asked me to see the idol. She just trusted me, which is hard because with that James idol back on Malolo beach, I stretched the power and she fell for that.
她就是信任我，这有点难因为她之前就信了我夸大了James神像的力量

Holmes: We know now that Laurel and Donathan are close with Domenick and Wendell. Did you know that was going on when you were out there?
你知道LDDW这个四人盟吗
Yerger: I knew they were getting pulled in different directions. They had always been in the middle between the alliance I was in and the Naviti alliances. I knew that was going on. They really tricked us well, saying they were working as ambassadors and getting information. They’d say they knew they couldn’t win if they got to the end with them. Maybe when they said that they were keeping their options open. So, I credit them for that.
我知道Laurel和Donathan一直在左右逢源。他们一直在我的联盟和Naviti联盟的中间，我知道这是发生中的。他们巧妙地骗了我们老橙组的，说就是去Naviti那里外交骗信息。他们也说他们坐在DW身边是赢不了的。或许当他们说这句话的时候是保持了选择性，所以我信了。
Holmes: I feel like you’ve got this Dom/Wendell alliance that is packing a few idols. And the deeper into the game we get, the harder they are going to be to eliminate. Why aren’t people rising up to take them out?
你们知道DW有神像，游戏越靠后越难除掉神像，你们为什么不起义呢？
Yerger: (Laughs) Dude! It beats me! I can’t figure out why people aren’t ready to do it! When you have numbers, you have to make those moves. You’ve got to get out a big dog and build your resume. I don’t know if it was out of fear or they were worried about blowing up their game. It’s playing safe to a certain extent. I’ve got to trust that they thought they were doing what was best for their game. And thank God for Des. She was the only one willing to make a move. She saw the trajectory the game was going. And then Laurel has to be a loudmouth and leak it. There are so many of those things where we had an opportunity to blindside one of those guys. It doesn’t make any sense, it’s very frustrating.
老兄！你问到我了！我实在想不懂为什么大家没这么做！当你有人数的时候，你一定要做一些动作，你需要除掉领头人来填写进自己的建立。我不知道是太害怕了还是怕自己的游戏被搞翻，在某种程度上的确是求稳。我只能相信他们为了自己的游戏会做最好的决定。多亏了Des，她是唯一一个愿意放大招的，她看到了游戏进行的轨道，但Laurel一定要大嘴巴卖信息。我们有那么多机会去BD核心的。这一点也不讲理，太苦恼了！

Holmes: Alright, word association time. Let’s start with Brendan.
Yerger: Heroic. The dude’s a leader. I love the guy. 英雄一样的人 这个老兄是一个领导者 我爱他
Holmes: Laurel?
Yerger: Scaredy cat. Pitiful. 恐慌的小猫 好可怜
Holmes: Bradley?
Yerger: Level headed. Arrogant at times. 头脑清晰 有时很自大
Holmes: Chris?
Yerger: Animated. 很活泼
Holmes: Donathan?
Yerger: Selfish. 自私
Holmes: Gonzalez?
Yerger: Intimidating. 吓人
Holmes: Desiree?
Yerger: Risky. She was willing to do it with us. Ballsy. 大胆 她愿意和我们合作 胆识过人
Holmes: Domenick?
Yerger: Strategic. 精通策略
Holmes: Jacob?
Yerger: Giddy. He was so excited to play. 头晕目眩 他太开心来参赛了
Holmes: Libby?
Yerger: Oh man…princess…charming. 公主 迷人死了
Holmes: Kellyn?
Yerger: High-strung and empathetic. 高度紧张 有同理心
Holmes: Stephanie?
Yerger: Persuasive. She was incredible.有说服力 她是不可思议的
Holmes: Jenna?
Yerger: Chill, laid-back, I love the girl. 冷静 脾气好 我爱这个姑娘
Holmes: James?
Yerger: Analyitcal, stoic. 善于分析 坚忍的（禁欲系）
Holmes: Wendell?
Yerger: Smooth. Very charismatic. 圆滑 十分有魅力
Holmes: Sea Bass?
Yerger: Love the dude, but I’d say clueless. 我喜欢他 但我要说毫无目标
Holmes: Angela?
Yerger: Aimless. I don’t think she had a reason for anything that she did. 没有目标 她做事没有原因
Holmes: Let’s finish with Chelsea.
Yerger: She was very under-the-radar. She was never super outspoken. Like a spy 非常低调 她从未坦率过 就像一个间谍

Holmes: Angela made a big show of throwing you under the bus, but you were already under there…setting up camp. What was your take on that?
安琪拉（大名张韶涵）开大把你卖了，虽然你本来就是。。你的想法是什么？
Yerger: I was under the bus already. I was not in a great position. But, that definitely made things worse because I was not on Wendell’s radar at that time. So, for her to blow that up was not a good thing. At that time Wendell and Dom saw me as an advantage to keep me around as a meat shield. For the life of me, I couldn’t understand why she did it, because she could have worked with us to pull off a blindside.
我本来就是底层了，这不是一个好位置。但绝对把事情更糟糕了因为我那时并不在Wendell的雷达之中。所以她这样子毁掉了我的游戏不是一件好事。那是DW把我看作一个保护他们的肉盾。我感觉自己完全无法理解韶涵为什么要这么做，因为她可以和我们合作暗杀核心
Holmes: There needs to be a “Survivor” stat for how long people manage to stick around after they become the #1 target. Like instead of a pitcher’s ERA you have an EAT – Episodes After Targeting. If there were, yours would probably be very impressive. Is that something you’re proud of?
幸存者需要一个指标，来统计人们在被视为全民公敌后还能留下几集。如果现在有的话，你的数据应该很令人惊讶了，你会感到自豪吗
Yerger: I really am. I wish somethings were different. I wish I had the power and could make some bigger moves. But, I’m proud of what I did.
是的，我希望有些事情可以不一样，我希望我有一些可以放大招的力量。但我对我做过的事情很自豪。
Holmes: What was the reaction from your Malolo buddies when they learned your real age?
当你的Malolo小伙伴们知道你的真实年龄之后有什么反应吗
Yerger: It didn’t change a thing with me and Jenna. Same with Libby, that was in our Ponderosa. But, I didn’t make it a priority to tell anybody else. I didn’t want it to be a factor in our relationships. When the game was over, people started finding out through the grapevine and the reactions were pretty damn funny. Dom and Brendan and Kellyn especially. They were baffled.
Jenna和Libby的关系都没有任何改变，这在我的赛后视频有提到。但是我不觉得这是一个我要首先告诉其他人的事情。我不想让年龄成为关系的一项因素。当游戏结束了，人们开始通过小道消息发现了真相，反应倒是挺有趣的，尤其是Dom Brendan Kellyn，他们很困惑
Holmes: Were they like, “I was wondering why Michael kept asking me to buy him beer.”
会有“哦这就是Michael一直让我帮他买啤酒的原因了”这样的反应吗？
Yerger: (Laughs) Not quite. But, they had some red flags. But I felt the worst about Kellyn. We got really close out there and we had some big talks and I didn’t like lying on a deep, personal level like that.
不准确~但的确有一些危险信号啦。我觉得Kellyn给我的感觉最差，我们在岛上的时候十分亲近并且有过许多的深度谈话。我不是很喜欢在这种极度私人的程度上被骗

Kellyn阿姨一看就是那种和你交心很深然后无情卖你的类型走到最后也不会有票，D W真是大威胁哭，Chelsea Angela评价都不怎么样，这季的dead fish真多，s30的薇儿应该倍感欣慰后继有人（其实这群人比薇儿还不如，薇儿还能卖老队友直接作为最死的一条鱼到最后）

听了jenna的采访稍微能理解一点她了

好吧这季就这么交代了