谁E文比较好的?能帮看看这一段吗?关于雅马哈和新派的对比
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babycaomm 楼主
最后一段是不是说雅马哈A-S801比新派DAC9要好听?
原文地址:http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/nuprime-dac-9-dac-sta-9-stereo-amp-and-hpa-9-phono-preamp-and-headphone-amp/?page=4
Comparison
I considered comparing the NuPrime gear to my reference system, which consists of an Audio Research VS115 amplifier (115Wpc, $6495), Audio Research SP20 ($9000), connected by a Clarity Cables balanced interconnect ($1400/meter), a PS Audio Directstream DAC ($5995) connected by an Audience Au24 SE USB cable ($980)—and that doesn’t even include power cords, which average around $1000 per component. But it struck me as pretty goofy to compare a $23,870 system to the $2696 NuPrime system. It seemed a lot more useful to compare the NuPrime gear to the $899 Yamaha A-S801 integrated amplifier I recently reviewed, but it had been returned to the importer. So I’ll draw from that review of the Yamaha I wrote (Issue 263).
The Yamaha A-S801 integrated amplifier had a similarly advanced DAC, although it only played DSD files up to DSD128—not a big drawback. It had an internal mm phono section for which I took some (justified) flack for not reviewing, an amazing assortment of controls for tone, loudness, and balance, all of which were operable from the remote control. The A-S801 was rated at 100Wpc and came in a full-sized chassis with typical Yamaha styling. And there was a headphone output, which sounded quite good. So although there’s less output power, the A-S801 provided lots of flexibility in a single, very reasonably priced chassis. And 100 watts per channel isn’t chopped liver—it drove the KEF speakers quite loudly, although I don’t enjoy extreme volumes (I need my ears). Because it was conceived as a single unit, the controls on the Yamaha were easier to use and far more flexible than the rudimentary ones on the HPA-9 and DAC-9; whether that matters to you is a personal decision.
So let’s address the most contentious area: the treble. The Yamaha showed not a smidgen of the HF emphasis of the NuPrime STA-9. Although it wasn’t as suave as some gear I’ve heard, including NuPrime’s excellent IDA-16 integrated amplifier/DAC (reviewed in Issue 252), it was always pleasantly listenable. About “Folia Rodrigo, villancico” I wrote, “the cascabels which open the piece were very clearly delineated, though without as much detail as I’ve heard on the best systems. The bass, which descends into the mid-20Hz range, was, of course, not fully developed on the small KEF speakers (with subwoofer off), but had plenty of impact, and the upper bass was quite detailed…Percussion instruments sounded harmonically accurate, but blurred into the background a bit more than they do with top-of-the-line systems…The A-S801 had plenty of microdynamic verve, so the music sounded quite lively.”
I went into more detail about the Yamaha’s sonic characteristics because listening was a pleasure, not marred by brightness. About “Miserere” I wrote, “The main group was reproduced with plenty of detail and clarity, without any trace of the distortion that some components impose on the piece. I’ve heard the main (front) choir distributed more widely across the soundstage, but singers within the group were well localized. The distant solo group was reproduced in a wash of reverberation, but the singers there were still understandable. I’ve heard this piece reproduced better, but by systems costing multiples of what the review system costs.” Again, there was absolutely no brightness in the sonic character. So if the much cheaper Yamaha’s 100 watts per channel is adequate for your needs, it offers better sound, more flexible controls, a DAC that’s only very slightly less flexible than the NuPrime’s, and a phono section that only supports mm cartridges. But it costs $899 as opposed to $2047 for the NuPrime gear system with a single 120Wpc STA-9 amplifier. And in my view, the Yamaha integrated amplifier was much more attractive, with nicer build-quality.
Bottom Line
Let’s do the math: As a system, the NuPrime 9-series components are quite reasonably priced—$2047 with a single 120Wpc STA-9 amplifier, or $2696 for the HPA-9, DAC-9, and two STA-9s in monoblock configuration. If you don’t want the headphone amp/phono preamp, a system with the DAC-9 and a single STA-9 could be had for $1398. And if you’re not into digital, a basic system with the HPA-9 headphone amp/phono preamp and a single STA-9 would cost $1298. This modular approach makes it possible to choose just the features you need/want at prices that in today’s audio market are fairly low. But to be a bargain, the NuPrime components must also sound good, and I’m sad to say, the sonic problems I heard prevent me from fully recommending them. The STA-9 power amplifiers sounded rather bright to me, making several pieces unpleasant to listen to, so they are only recommendable if you have speakers with rolled-off high frequencies. I wished I could have heard them without the added distortion component. The headphone amplifier in the HPA-9 sounded quite good, but the phono preamplifier was a bit noisy. I found it rather nice to listen to, but some might not. The DAC-9 seemed to have no significant flaws, so at its price, it’s easy to fully recommend.
2017年11月03日 09点11分 1
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babycaomm 楼主
正在选一个前级+解码,本来看中DAC9,然后在TAS上搜了DAC9的评测,看到结尾,似乎这个评测的老外觉得雅马哈A-S801音质更好?
2017年11月03日 09点11分 2
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关注一下,这个价位便宜,功能多,
2017年11月03日 12点11分 3
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babycaomm 楼主
没有大神说说吗?
2017年11月04日 23点11分 4
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推荐的是新派dac9
2017年11月05日 07点11分 5
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babycaomm 楼主
这一段:So if the much cheaper Yamaha’s 100 watts per channel is adequate for your needs, it offers better sound, more flexible controls,
2017年11月05日 09点11分 6
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babycaomm 楼主
还有:a DAC that’s only very slightly less flexible than the NuPrime’s, and a phono section that only supports mm cartridges. And in my view, the Yamaha integrated amplifier was much more attractive, with nicer build-quality.
2017年11月05日 09点11分 7
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babycaomm 楼主
然后最后又说:The DAC-9 seemed to have no significant flaws, so at its price, it’s easy to fully recommend.
2017年11月05日 09点11分 8
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babycaomm 楼主
用谷歌翻译,似乎他前边那一段说雅马哈具有更好的音质,更灵活的控制,只是DAC灵活性比新派DAC9稍差,他说雅马哈更有吸引力
2017年11月05日 09点11分 9
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babycaomm 楼主
然而最后他又说:DAC-9似乎没有明显的缺陷,所以按其价格来说,很容易推荐。 E文烂就是搞不明白啊,为啥前后矛盾呢?这到底是雅马哈好,还是DAC9好?
2017年11月05日 09点11分 10
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每个单词我都认识然而读了一遍啥也没明白哈哈[哈哈]
2017年11月05日 13点11分 11
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从文章来说的话TAS的编辑最后推荐了雅马哈,文章的意思是雅马哈声音更好,但是每声道瓦数稍低(每声道100W),同时解码只能到DSD128。另一方面Nuprime的9系列优点是DAC解码能力更强,同时更灵活(每个功能都有单独的机器可选,像解码有DAC9, 功放有STA9,耳放有hpa9, 可按需搭配), 但是有个很关键的声音上的缺陷,就是高频过亮,让人难以忍受。这也呼应了编辑在最后的结论,如果你的音箱需要大功率功放,并且你的音箱有高频滚降,可以用STA9, 耳放hpa9很不错,但是带的唱放很烂。DAC9没什么大毛病,比较推荐。
按你的问题来说的话你用一台带解码的合并功放(雅马哈)比较了一台解码器(DAC9),本身没什么可比较性。单说解码部分的话,肯定是DAC9比较强。
2017年11月15日 15点11分 12
谢谢翻译,用带解码的功放对比纯解码确实不好,只是这么对比就瞬间觉得新派的性价比差了很多
2017年11月17日 11点11分
这也是TAS编辑得出的结论,如果你需要功放,前级,解码。那么雅马哈对比新派系统,显得性价比很高,而且新派系统的功放有高频失真的缺陷。如果你只比解码的话,新派的DAC9无疑好很多,而且光用雅马哈的解码也是一种浪费
2017年11月17日 13点11分
@LeohaoZ 我需要前级加解码呢,如果dac9只是纯解码,是不是不如雅马哈?
2017年11月23日 04点11分
@babycaomm 没错,雅马哈性价比更好
2017年11月23日 05点11分
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谷歌翻译就很好阿,或者下载它的app手机直接就翻了。
2017年11月17日 07点11分 14
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或者安装浏览器扩展插件Translator for Microsoft Edge,一键翻译。
2017年11月17日 07点11分 15
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Comparison
I considered comparing the NuPrime gear to my reference system, which consists of an Audio Research VS115 amplifier (115Wpc, $6495), Audio Research SP20 ($9000), connected by a Clarity Cables balanced interconnect ($1400/meter), a PS Audio Directstream DAC ($5995) connected by an Audience Au24 SE USB cable ($980)—and that doesn’t even include power cords, which average around $1000 per component. But it struck me as pretty goofy to compare a $23,870 system to the $2696 NuPrime system. It seemed a lot more useful to compare the NuPrime gear to the $899 Yamaha A-S801 integrated amplifier I recently reviewed, but it had been returned to the importer. So I’ll draw from that review of the Yamaha I wrote (Issue 263).
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对照
我考虑将NuPrime设备与我的参考系统进行比较,该参考系统由Audio Clarity VS115放大器(115Wpc,6495美元),Audio Research SP20(9000美元),Clarity Cables平衡互连(1400美元/米),PS音频Directstream DAC (5995美元)通过Audience Au24 SE USB电缆连接(980美元) - 甚至不包括电源线,平均每个组件约1000美元。 但是,把$ 23,870系统与2696美元的NuPrime系统进行比较,让我感到非常高兴。 将NuPrime装置与我最近审查的899美元的Yamaha A-S801集成放大器进行比较似乎更加有用,但它已被退还给进口商。 所以我会从我写的雅马哈的审查(问题263)。提出修改建议查看原始译文您提供的翻译将用于改善翻译质量,并可能以匿名方式供其他用户参考提供建议关闭Duìzhào
wǒ kǎolǜ jiāng NuPrime shèbèi yǔ wǒ de cānkǎo xìtǒng jìnxíng bǐjiào, gāi cānkǎo xìtǒng yóu Audio Clarity VS115 fàngdàqì (115Wpc,6495 měiyuán),Audio Research SP20(9000 měiyuán),Clarity Cables pínghéng hù lián (1400 měiyuán/mǐ),PS yīnpín Directstream DAC (5995 měiyuán) tōngguò Audience Au24 SE USB diànlǎn liánjiē (980 měiyuán) - shènzhì bù bāokuò diànyuán xiàn, píngjūn měi gè zǔjiàn yuē 1000 měiyuán. Dànshì, bǎ $ 23,870 xìtǒng yǔ 2696 měiyuán de NuPrime xìtǒng jìnxíng bǐjiào, ràng wǒ gǎndào fēicháng gāoxìng. Jiāng NuPrime zhuāngzhì yǔ wǒ zuìjìn shěnchá de 899 měiyuán de Yamaha A-S801 jíchéng fàngdàqì jìnxíng bǐjiào sìhū gèngjiā yǒuyòng, dàn tā yǐ bèi tuìhuán gěi jìnkǒu shāng. Suǒyǐ wǒ huì cóng wǒ xiě de yǎmǎhā de shěnchá (wèntí 263).
2017年11月17日 07点11分 16
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