mapogo秃尾巴失踪之谜被正式解开,被当地人设套捕杀
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昨天在脸谱上登了几条让人吃惊的消息。
1.mapogo 在沙河sand river群里有6只将近成年的雄性后代。 2009年因为越出保护区其中5只被枪杀。一只逃脱后也死了。 据willem botha一个当地的工作人员说是当地部落逼迫保护区工作人员这么干的。
2. 秃尾巴被证实是因为跑出保护区去捕猎一头家畜,被当地人设套捕杀。
昨天fb上面还有一张照片,今天那个页面被锁。
这是昨天的谈话原文。
Willem Botha Everybody blame and critisise te white people in the photo who was involved in the shooting of the lions. The big culprits are the three chiefs of Dumphries village who insisted thatc he lions should be distroyed after eating their cattle. We attempted to bait and dart the lions and take them back to the Sabi Sands but members of the local population on instruction of the chiefs chaded the lions away from the bait. They also threatened members of the Sabi Sands and MTPA with violence should we attempt to dart the lions. At one stage we wanted to leave the area the but were blocked by the local population and were told that we could not leave before the lions were destroyed. That was when a group of huntets with their dogs from Lydenburg was called to assist the authorities. Dreadlocks also left the reserve in the north of the reserve at the Kokovelo river where he on various occasions left the reserve to seek easy prey in the community outside the reserve. There he was caught in a snare which was set near a carcass of a cow which he caught the previous night.
Nadja Fehric Mustafic So he was killed by the local population???
Nadja Fehric Mustafic Just say it Willem Botha, please! I've been waiting for years for a response!12 hrs ·
Willem Botha Yes. As was many other animals that left the reserve.
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2015年07月09日 04点07分 1
level 11
这群畜生
2015年07月09日 05点07分 2
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合法猎杀,这4个字多么让人心碎。
2015年07月09日 06点07分 3
level 10
这些鬼子早就知道答案 还他妈的 传言老四被洪水冲走啦 它们想说什么就说什么
2015年07月09日 08点07分 4
是啊,这帮孙子早就知道答案,还故意在这卖关子
2020年02月02日 10点02分
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丢出去喂狮子
2015年07月09日 09点07分 6
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[怒]
2015年07月09日 10点07分 7
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[不高兴][不高兴][不高兴][真棒]
2015年07月09日 10点07分 9
level 12
唉。坏男孩就这样被人类弄到没落
2015年07月09日 11点07分 10
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[怒]
2015年07月09日 11点07分 11
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这也是命
2015年07月10日 01点07分 12
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看英文确实是老四,前半段说的是一群狮子,后面把老四的英文名写出来,用了also,也。然后应该就是楼主说的被杀了。不过消息看是否为真的。
2015年07月10日 04点07分 13
level 8
他们还自以为狠威风,可恶之及,但忘了最重要一点,威风的是枪并不是他们几人,可悲、可恨、愚蠢之及。还笑的可以,可能他们认为这非同一般的黄金一笑会留名千古,可惜这几个蠢猪没想到的是,从此背负上的是千古骂名,而非留名,可笑、可悲、可怜、可恨。
2015年07月10日 06点07分 14
吧务
level 15
回头辛苦楼主把其它原文加吧友的翻译一块粘贴到这个贴作为保存吧!辛苦你了,同时也感谢你的信息,谢谢!
2015年07月10日 10点07分 15
吧务
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信息来源于:脱凡超俗的鹰
The Mapogos 2.0 - Sand River Pride males
Mapogos 5 dead sons...
Credits to Willem Botha for this sad picture...
by vizions/ 07-03-2015
"I want to talk about the Mapogo's descendants for this post. In terms of numbers, there's a not a lot of them: there's the 3 Ottawa females, the 4 Mangheni females, and possibly the 2 Ottawa males who went into the KNP in 2012. For such a strong coalition, those numbers aren't impressive.
But then, we have to talk about the "dark" side of thoses numbers: the impact of humans.
Not a lof of people know this but the Mapogos had 5 sons in the Sand River Pride in 2009, who were around 2 years old~. Early 2009, the fences of the western sector were washed away by heavy rains and the Sand river pride (2 females adults and the 5 subadults males) broke out of the Sabi Sands reserve. The authorities decided to shot down the entire pride, and the entire pride was wiped out (one male got away but didn't survive alone). Can't imagine how awesome if those 5 had make it to maturity....
For the Ximhungwe pride, there was a lot of misfortune due to humans also. 4 subadults ate a rabid dog and had to be put down by the authorities. One Xim lionness was killed by a snare; her 2 sons weren't accepted by the others lionness and died as a result.
Dreadlocks was a casualty of poaching also. There could be also others things that never became public and we'll never know about it.
I'm not trying to blame the Sabi Sands reserve who are doing their best to protect their wildlife, they are not the one to blame for this record.

07. July 2015 17:45
A statement of Willem Botha just a few moments ago: "Everybody blame and critisise te white people in the photo who was involved in the shooting of the lions. The big culprits are the three chiefs of Dumphries village who insisted thatc he lions should be distroyed after eating their cattle. We attempted to bait and dart the lions and take them back to the Sabi Sands but members of the local population on instruction of the chiefs chaded the lions away from the bait. They also threatened members of the Sabi Sands and MTPA with violence should we attempt to dart the lions. At one stage we wanted to leave the area the but were blocked by the local population and were told that we could not leave before the lions were destroyed. That was when a group of huntets with their dogs from Lydenburg was called to assist the authorities. Dreadlocks also left the reserve in the north of the reserve at the Kokovelo river where he on various occasions left the reserve to seek easy prey in the community outside the reserve. There he was caught in a snare which was set near a carcass of a cow which he caught the previous night." After he was asked if that means that Dreadlocks was killed by the local population here is his answer: "Yes. As was many other animals that left the reserve." Now, after years we know the truth how Dreadlocks died!
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Vinay Khandelwal Why eyes in pictures are blacked Willem Botha
Willem Botha I did not black them out. They were blackened out by one of the groups that poached the photo.
Michele Alimo Sturm So awful. I'll never understand the mentality of an animal murderer.
Willem Botha That is why I dont want to comment on these sites. Who is the animal murderer you refer to. Nature has to be managed. If the mapogos escaped and killed half the population outside the reserve and someone shot them, would that person be called a hero or an animal murderer?
Arjan van Vendelo Thats a good one Willem Botha, but why no narcose and place them back where they belong?if its a dart or a bullet... Im against killing wildlife by human so thats gonna be hard for me all the time i see it... And maybe i just dont understand..
Willem Botha Arjan van Vendelo. Read my previous comment. One thing people do not understand is the fact that once a lion got used to hunting easy prey he always goes back. Fences cannot keep animals in. If they want to go out they will go out. Especially once they are being threatened where they live. I learned that the hard way. If you were in my shoes you would understand. If you did not walk where I did you will never understand it.
Jeanette Leinweber Yes Willem I know the story and also read your previous comments, esprecially this one you said you took the photo. Obviously you're a little Houdini and this makes your story very "credible" as well, as much as your smile about.... what? The money that changed pockets? Have a good day and stay safe!
Willem Botha Jeanette Leinweber. Have you ever heard about a timer setting and a tripod? About money changing hands? Ask the three chiefs who sold the skins and the body parts to jewlers and traditional healers.Nadja Fehric Mustafic. I don't dispute that. None of the Mapogos are in the photo.
Willem Botha Did anyone ever ask why the Sand River pride flee out of the reserve. Why did they not want to come back when we lured them back with bait and why did they leave again after we brought them back after they escaped the first time?
Willem Botha The darted SandRiver pride back in the Sabi Sand after their first escape.
Willem Botha Danielle Liska. The lions on the vehicle are the darted sand river pride when they were taken back before they escaped again. Unfortunately some people are to ignorant to see the reality of the unfortunate work we had to do from time to time.
Gensaki Vincent Jake Ortega i feel sad.. to mapogos bloodline.. frown emoticon and why u need to kill those lion?....
Danielle Liska I understand that sometime you have to protect environment , but for us who saw mapogo so many times it is sad to see them disappeared . Thanks for your comments
Drew Abrahamson Oh my word. Unfortunate??? These lions got out AGAIN because the fence came down in flood...they were not problem lions. They could have been darted & taken back. Compensation could have been paid
Willem Botha Drew, I have nothing to hide. There is however so many people sharing photos on these pages that do not deserve the credits as they actually know nothing about the facts. If you knew the true facts you could give your meaning but even you were not there. I was there even though I was not part of the masacare but had to over see it after the 3 savages in the left rear insited that the lions be killed. Everyone blames the white hunters. Its is time the truth be told. They were the only people who gained financialy and even though they were compencated for the catle that were killed, the owners of the cattle were never compwnsated. Only the chiefs gained. True africa style.
Willem Botha Drew Abrahamson get a life. Ask your friend Carl Langdon who went out with me to shoot bait for the lions what I did for those lions. I Was not the desicion maker I just had to follow orders from people in government if you can call them that. So stop trying to make out as if I am the bad one here.. I spent days and nights on foot because of the wet season trying to locate those lions darting them and returning them to the Sabi Sands as I did with Makwela untill she and her cubs were killed by the savages outside the Sabi Sands. You are ill informed. Get your facts straight then slander me again.
Willem Botha I have no guilt. The only reason I posed for the photo is to expose the real culprits. The people for whom Richard Branson built a clinic and that is the way they are thanking him. You are just another arm chair concervationist who actualy know nothing trying to discredit people who devoted ther lives to conservation trying to make our voice heard. That is shamefull.
Willem Botha I am trying to make a positive contribution to this page by trying to share the truth about the events about the lions of the Sabi Sands whom I worked with for several years but unfortunately some clever as holes who never even seen the lions live and only read about them on internet and some pretty faces who exploit Africa's wildlife for financial gain, are not giving me the opportunity to share the real facts with people who are really interested to hearvthe facts. I will thus be no longer part of this discussion. Believe the people who give you secondhand false information. They are the people who apear in documentaries about the lions you all became to love.
2015年07月10日 10点07分 17
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终于权威的声音出来了···终于 真想一点一点爆料出来 现在就差大象平原的真想了 老二为什么会无故失踪··那么大型的9狮大战怎么会没人跟踪拍摄 一点一点的放出真想吧 甚至老五的死 撒旦为什么等老五报废了才出现 一点一滴 都有怀疑!
2015年07月10日 15点07分 19
我也想知道真相
2016年02月29日 04点02分
@tjyhhs 打住?为何不是继续揭露肮脏的内幕?[挖鼻]
2017年10月05日 14点10分
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[泪]
2015年07月10日 16点07分 20
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原来是这样,那些黑人真恶心,他们一直想隐瞒大屠杀的真相,还谎说老四被洪水冲走了[怒]
2015年07月11日 01点07分 22
@tjyhhs 是啊,保护区的栅栏真的是关系到整个狮子的种族存亡,希望工作人员认真对待,不要再重蹈覆辙了,那些部落黑人才是真的可恶的,居然提出那么无耻的要求,很可恨,应该让他们搬走
2015年07月11日 06点07分
我也觉得不该隐瞒,唉
2015年07月11日 06点07分
@tjyhhs 你说得很对啊,毕竟他们尽了力,如果不隐瞒的话,会有更多的人信任他们,给他们一些帮助
2015年07月11日 06点07分
@cx_185 是,像77说的,12年X狮群的亚成年和后来的女王,可能都死于猎杀,隐瞒真相的惨痛后果啊,小雌狮本来可以壮大X狮群阵容的,弄得现在这么惨,都快团灭了
2015年07月11日 06点07分
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居然被枪杀[怒],搞合法狩猎真是祸患巨大啊[怒][怒]
2015年07月11日 03点07分 23
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恶心的黑人
2015年07月11日 08点07分 24
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