【搬运】汤上关于老霉les情史的猜测
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karmy_amy 楼主
大概是老霉给人的感觉太直了,所以吧里很少人认同老霉一直是弯的这个观点?但是楼主觉得老霉很多小动作其实很gay的(她的女权主张也挺gay的,毕竟直女关心女权还是少的)而且粉kaylor这么久,我觉得只有这个理论最合逻辑,很多事情放在这个理论下一想就通了,所以我觉得还是开一贴,至少给大家多提供一种思路。
楼主粉上霉不久,史料不太了解,因此纯搬运汤上分析贴,有不赞同的地方大家一起探讨。
2015年05月08日 08点05分 1
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下文呢?
2015年05月08日 08点05分 3
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karmy_amy 楼主
楼主英文也渣,大段翻译困难,大概提炼几点:
1.Dianna在2012年时和Karlie一样,和霉迅速发展成“best friend”,经历了老霉与Conor Kennedy和Harry Styles的交往并经常出现在霉和男生的约会中。
2.霉red专辑的22是献给Dianna的,这是霉的老友才有的待遇。
3.Dianna的眼睛是淡褐色的,但是有时在光照下会折射出绿色。哈卷的眼睛是绿色的。老霉的歌词多次提到绿眼睛。
4.好像是说1989专辑中出现过很多次花,最终都枯萎和凋谢了?楼主没有get到内涵,但那张配图感觉挺暧昧的。。
5.重头戏:Wonderland。Dianna很喜欢 Alice in Wonderland,原tumblr的URL是“felldowntherabbithole”(歌词),有一个纹身纹的是“we’re all mad here”。
6.Dianna对猫过敏,但是2012年她的twitter头像都是她环着Mere殿。
2015年05月08日 09点05分 6
@桃夏🌸 姐妹实惨,16年的评论还被翻出来鞭尸[汗]
2022年02月12日 18点02分
@个草地弯1 有毛病?[疑问]多少年前的贴跑出来挖坟就算了 自己手贱跑到cp贴吧骂别人磕cp?这么闲麻烦找个厂上班
2022年02月12日 17点02分
@个草地弯1 你又是哪来的臭逼 谁小学英语没及格连gay含义都不知道我不说 七年前的回复还能让你破防成这样真可怜 爷没你那么闲还得智商支教 脑子坏了就去治 酸鸡一个[太开心]
2022年02月13日 10点02分
@个草地弯1 哇哦 骂完就拉黑哦 这就破防啦?就你还有资格骂网友吗?笑死,老霉是啥样的要你管你寄吧谁?你在这破防也没办法阻止人家当初就是关系好到睡一张床哈😘
2022年02月13日 10点02分
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karmy_amy 楼主
Dianna Agron楼主不太了解,但是看了百度百科都觉得是不错的人,亮点有素食者、善待动物组织支持者、自曝亲吻过同性,直人觉得没什么,但是gay一眼觉得比较gay有木有[冷]
2015年05月08日 09点05分 7
DA超gay的啊,汤上还有段子调侃呢。。段子:有人说DA好gay,DA就说那我就去跟宇直玩好了,然后那个人说好了现在霉霉也so gay了23333
2015年05月08日 12点05分
2015年05月08日 11点05分
深扒Di爷会发现...她很gay的...记得以前看过一个分析帖....
2015年05月08日 10点05分
回复 summer夏日时光 :Di爷了都,是有多gay[笑眼]
2015年05月08日 10点05分
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霉霉汤不热大多点赞女霉粉的,她有一颗弯的心
2015年05月08日 09点05分 8
对啊,我觉得真直女也吸不了这么多女粉
2015年05月08日 09点05分
@赶不上公共汽车 百度女同性恋gay蕾丝边百合不就行了,当然不一样啊
2015年05月21日 04点05分
@赶不上公共汽车 因为追星大部分都是女的,讨厌她的也很多都是女的,直男基本只想硬盘之类的而已
2015年05月21日 04点05分
回复 赶不上公共汽车 :气质给人的感觉不同,弯的女星性格多爽朗,讨喜不做作,吸引的粉丝自然不一样。想想Hebe和国民老公郭碧婷[吐舌]
2015年05月21日 05点05分
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I say I heard that you been out and about with some other girl, some other girl
He says, what you’ve heard is true but I can‘t stop thinking about you
and I, I said I’ve been there too a few times
[音乐]
2015年05月08日 09点05分 9
哈哈哈,good catch![吐舌]
2015年05月08日 09点05分
哈哈哈哈哈哈正解
2015年05月08日 16点05分
这个其实kk拍过詹姆斯迪恩硬照,而且詹姆斯迪恩死前长混gay吧
2015年05月10日 04点05分
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karmy_amy 楼主
找到这个比较全的帖子了,http://lollipopsandsuicide.去tumblr.com/post/56181554600/中so-i-think-taylor-swift-may-actually-like-字females
2015年05月08日 11点05分 10
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karmy_amy 楼主
So I think Taylor Swift may actually like females. And I don’t mean this offensively.
“Everyone is a little gay. Being comfortable with who you are and showing it depends on the environment you were raised in and how much you think society will accept you, and really, how much you care.” - Anonymous
(这句楼主也很认同,渣翻一下:每个人都有一点同性倾向。你是否悦纳它并展示出来取决于,你长大的环境,你觉得社会是否会接受你还有,你有多在乎。--匿名)
I completely agree with the statement above. I think I found it when I was in like sixth grade, and I’ve always thought it was true.
Here’s a little background knowledge on me: I’m pansexual. I usually use the term “lesbian”, but I’m really just pansexual. I came to terms with this when I was really young, probably about sixth or seventh. I really used music a lot to help me a lot. Taylor Swift especially. The songs from her first album really helped me come to terms with myself.
I’ve always had this things where everyone I meet, I wonder if they could have any gay. And I like to think my gay-dar is really good. So I’ve always kind of wondered about Taylor. When people would ask me, I’d just say, “Yeah, she could be. I just feel like she’s hiding that part of herself.”
(汤主介绍自己,她是倾向于同性恋的泛性恋)
It wasn’t until I saw this (http://swiftsecrets.去tumblr.com/post/55828379670/中字secret-contd-she-was-never-in-love-with-jake) post on a blog where you can submit thoughts and such about Taylor:
(楼主给的链接,是另一位汤煮贴出的,后面和ellen的故事不太了解,重点是左图老霉脖子上的口红印)
2015年05月08日 11点05分 11
众多证据中,红唇印是最直接最有力的,不管emliy还有其他人是不是真的,霉能接受与女性达到亲吻级别的关系至少她也是个双了。
2015年05月08日 15点05分
all too well的那段不赞同,霉妈不都说了这歌是在speaknow巡演排练的时候写的,第一次唱时声泪俱下哭喊着唱完的吗,把旁边录音的音响师都唱哭了,这要也是编的故事就真可以去领奥斯卡了。
2015年05月08日 15点05分
@erythrina 楼主太不本质了,功课差太多[黑线]
2015年05月08日 16点05分
@erythrina 这么说吧,emily是初级朦胧的纯百合,和da是进阶,然后到kk就是真les了,就是不知道接下来会是怎么处理了
2015年05月08日 17点05分
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karmy_amy 楼主
(接上)
I didn’t submit this. But I was really intrigued by it.
Of course, my first thought was “Those are all really valid points.” However, I can’t show you one “secret” submitted by someone and expect everyone to believe it, can I? So I’ve done some research of my own.
Lipstick pic:
The picture used for the secret above was from her concert in Vancouver while she was preforming 22 on June 29, 2013.
You can see more pictures from the whole concert here (http://www.celebfanforum.去com/showthread.php?130677-中字Taylor-Swift-performance-concert-candids-in-Vancouver-June-29-2013-*updated*〔13年6月29,霉22演唱会图片〕). The marks weren’t there before the performance, but were there afterwards. She does a costume change between Stay Stay Stay/ Hey Ho and 22… and there are no marks there. However, they’re there for 22.(分析了口红印是霉换装过程给亲上去的*thirsty*[黑线]
This is also what I found on it: (http://dirtytaylorswift.去tumblr.com/post/54720526372/中字followformoremisandry-vomohiper)
(重点是老霉Tracherouszhe 这首歌是关于lesbian的?)
2015年05月08日 12点05分 12
这首歌的点:And I'll do anything you say, If you say it with your hands
2015年07月17日 13点07分
这红唇印笑死我了,刚刚看了大图,还真有[笑眼]
2015年05月08日 14点05分
这歌说杰克有说哈卷有,关键是我get不到les点在哪
2015年05月08日 14点05分
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karmy_amy 楼主
(接上,这段有
taylor为Emily录制的视频和礼物Note)
This being interesting, I looked up more about Taylor and Emily. This is what I found:
Apparently she posted this (http://v.去youku.com/v_show/id中字_XODU0NjE5NTky.html) video about Emily. INCLUDING the song and everything. This is also the note that you see in it:
Note原文:
“Emily— I feel as if
our relationship has been taken to the next level over the past few months and with much contemplation I decided I would bestow upon you one of my most prized possession: my flamingo bandana. This is a 3rd generation family heirloom and i suggest you frame it. I think it will look perfect in your apartment with the cat pillows. Enjoy”
Interesting isn’t it? Funny how the song says “You have stolen my heart” in a video she made for her completely platonic friend. It was originally posted to her MySpace. (x) However, the video is no longer there. It was from when she was on tour with Keith Urban.(老霉还把那段视频放在MySpace,但后来删除了)
It was supposed to have been a video saying goodbye to Emily because she was leaving the band or whatever, BUT
“Hmm, now that I notice it, the “stolen” video was posted in the summer of 2007, months before Emily was fired.
So, not so much a “bittersweet farewell” as I thought; more like a “Hey, everybody, the tour is ending and I’m making a video for Emily to show how much I love her—as a friend, haha!—hold up this sign I made, k? Thanks!” deal.
17-y/o lovestruck Taylor ftw.”(这个视频是在Emily被炒半年前录制的,完全不是要欢送Emily哦,而是霉集结朋友、很单纯要向Emily表达爱意而已[呵呵]
2015年05月08日 12点05分 14
那段emily走的那位果然贴的是差不多一样的,老霉百合气息好浓其实这样看
2015年05月08日 13点05分
楼主 求视频里面那首歌的歌名
2017年02月22日 16点02分
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期待更多
2015年05月08日 13点05分 15
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[哈哈]
2015年05月08日 13点05分 17
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karmy_amy 楼主
And more on Emily:
上图文字:
“I can’t see any evidence that she’s bi…I think she’s a pure lez. The only “boyfriend” she’s ever had was Joe Jonas (gay). She couldn’t even bring herself to claim she was dating Lautner (possibly gay) and the “official" word on that breakup was that Lautner was into her but she felt “no chemistry" with him and just wasn’t interested. The alleged “dirt" on the end of “T-squared" was that she was involved with John Mayer (GAY, and a frequent merkin for Jennifer Aniston).(涉及楼主不太清楚的老霉情史,不明求指点[黑线]
Even a completely-supportive fansite manager admits that there was no reason Emily Poe was fired from the band by the label (look up some of the band’s early concert reviews and Emily’s performances are highly praised), and that Taylor fought to keep Emily, lending credence to the idea that someone found out about their relationship. Taylor’s vid to “Stolen” in tribute to Emily is heart-touching, ending with Taylor holding the “I love you, Emily” sign that she probably made and had everyone else hold up so the message wouldn’t seem quite so blatant. And if Taylor really did write “Breathe” about Emily, then the song’s final “I’m sorry” repetition is likely about the guilt Tay feels because Emily was fired to protect her (Taylor’s) image.
(大意:一位粉丝团管理人员也认为Emily被炒是没有道理的,回顾乐队早期演唱会视频,Emily的表演是得到高度赞赏的,并且Taylor为留下Emily抗争过。Taylor为Emily制作的视频非常感人,结尾时Tay拿着写着“I love you, Emily”的纸条,虽然Tay让每个人都拿着相同的纸片使其不那么露骨。如果Breathe确实是写给Emily的,那最后那个 “I’m sorry”大概是Taylor为了保护自己的形象而赶走Emily向她说的抱歉吧)
Yes, she’s written a bunch of crappy traditional “girl loves boy” songs. She’s no Melissa Etheridge, avoiding gender pronouns and writing in the second person all the time, but then she’s a teen-ager and she’s in an incredibly conservative sector of the music business. And “Breathe” *is* in second person, no genders mentioned, and “Love Story” gives her a chance to sing almost the whole song from the *male* p.o.v., via the “he said” lyrical device. (It’s interesting that “Love Story” uses the uber-cliched “Romeo and Juliet” imagery, given that when Taylor met her “best friend” Abigail Anderson in 9th grade, they bonded over how stupid they thought the play was. Apparently Taylor isn’t one to think guys are worth killing yourself over.)
She did an incredibly lesbian-subtextual skit on SNL. Ellen adores her, and Taylor told Ellen she was happy being single, she used neutral pronouns in discussing her future romantic partners. And when she did that collaboration with Def Leppard, one of the songs she sang was “Pour Some Sugar on Me”, which is an ode to being covered in girl-cum.(第一句提到了老霉在SNL那段有les倾向的表演,后半部分不明觉厉[黑线]
She may not ‘ping’ for some people, but she certainly is looking more and more lesbian to me. (And, eyes aside, I think she’s pretty hot.)”
2015年05月08日 14点05分 20
老霉男票中有同性传闻只有四个,小狼,杰克,肯尼迪,哈卷
2015年05月08日 14点05分
@haliuew1992 肯尼迪是当初被po和一个裸男有疑似床照爆出,小狼爱混gay吧,杰克和哈卷都是双吧
2015年05月08日 14点05分
看完了以后我只想说,TAYLOR真的好GAY
2015年06月10日 05点06分
男友也都是gay,但颜值是真的高
2019年05月07日 02点05分
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哈哈哈细思极恐[惊讶]难怪我这么喜欢她[太开心]感情上蛮多类似……我信她有同性倾向,也坚决认为和以前几个男友都是真,嗯
2015年05月08日 14点05分 21
@karmy_amy 我之前看过一个小规模调查统计,假设1表示完全异性倾向,10表示完全同性倾向,要求受调查者根据自己的情况给出1-10之间的数,结果只有极少数人是1或者10,大部分都在2-9之间。就像世界上不是只有黑和白,还有各种度数的灰[滑稽]~
2015年05月08日 16点05分
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:这可能就是双的特点吧,对两性从生理到心理都不排斥。不过用是否稳定评价一个人的性倾向没用啊,就算她够稳定,纯直或纯弯,但是不专一,也不会是理想的交往对象;而如果她是双,但是在每段感情里都很专情,那也挺好的[吐舌]想到了Rosiy
2015年05月09日 06点05分
她双偏同应该
2015年05月08日 14点05分
你去看个星座贴八老霉的,简直是准的离谱
2015年05月08日 14点05分
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楼主努力cry
2015年05月08日 15点05分 23
今天不搬了 明天继续[吐舌]
2015年05月08日 15点05分
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就喜欢这种有料的帖[花心]
2015年05月08日 15点05分 25
[花心]
2015年05月08日 16点05分
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好贴马住!
2015年05月08日 16点05分 26
[吐舌]
2015年05月08日 16点05分
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我好奇关于kk的,我姬友说kk基本就是娘t,而且是纯弯的,可惜她现在不见了
2015年05月08日 16点05分 27
@BHZA1203 怎么会没有影响,就像你说的不给名分,谁HOLD的下去
2015年06月19日 14点06分
回复 @AV黯星 :你去看看still real那个帖子,她有没有男票是个事,也不是个事
2015年05月09日 00点05分
@haliuew1992 事实证明她的男票也有自己的CUTE COUPLE而且不影响搞姬[酷]
2015年06月18日 15点06分
@haliuew1992 关键是你家偶像也不可能出来啊,,,
2015年06月19日 16点06分
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