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Hi,
I would like to know wich distros are commited to not make the switch to systemd?
Is Salckware making the switch?
Thank you!
回答摘录:
1.I had heard that there was a discussion of systemd with the Slackware guys, but I tried to search for it on google and couldn*t turn up any results. For now, Slackware isn*t using it but I have heard nothing about a commitment not to use it. It seems unlikely that they would switch to it, but you never know.
Gentoo might be a good bet, AFAIK they officially support OpenRC booting, although I don*t know how easy it is to avoid systemd since they do "allow" it. Alpine Linux also uses OpenRC from what I can tell.
"Not-systemd" is going to be quite a narrow field in the near future.
2.
Well, the problem with using shell scripts in the boot process is that it goes through a lot of PIDs, and it would be "less ugly" to arrive at a usable machine state with a PID in the hundreds, or lower. If everything has to break in order to achieve that, it seems like a good trade. Eventually all the broken stuff will be fixed, right?
I think that*s the basic rationale. And maybe shave a few more seconds off boot time, but who boots much (or cares)? My servers and desktops remain on, and my laptops are usually on, suspended, or hibernated. I would prefer a reliable and well-understood boot system like the one we have.
My primary concern is that the systemd cabal is going to be pushing it as a dependency wherever possible, but we*ll deal with that if it happens. But if any major distributions do actually release using systemd, the world will be stuck with it forever. If that*s the case, I hope it turns out to be a good idea...
3.
For now, Slackware isn*t using it but I have heard nothing about a commitment not to use it.
Hasn*t Slackware made a commitment to not use PAM? You can build systemd without PAM IIRC (useful for embedded systems), but there*s many desktop-related features relying on it. But then, they probably never used consolekit, so they won*t need logind either.
Anyway, due to Slackware*s conservative attitude, I*d bet on them not using systemd in the future.
4.Gentoo is pretty focused on OpenRC.
5.Chrome OS, if that counts it still uses upstart.
2014年09月25日 07点09分
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Hi,
I would like to know wich distros are commited to not make the switch to systemd?
Is Salckware making the switch?
Thank you!
回答摘录:
1.I had heard that there was a discussion of systemd with the Slackware guys, but I tried to search for it on google and couldn*t turn up any results. For now, Slackware isn*t using it but I have heard nothing about a commitment not to use it. It seems unlikely that they would switch to it, but you never know.
Gentoo might be a good bet, AFAIK they officially support OpenRC booting, although I don*t know how easy it is to avoid systemd since they do "allow" it. Alpine Linux also uses OpenRC from what I can tell.
"Not-systemd" is going to be quite a narrow field in the near future.
2.
Well, the problem with using shell scripts in the boot process is that it goes through a lot of PIDs, and it would be "less ugly" to arrive at a usable machine state with a PID in the hundreds, or lower. If everything has to break in order to achieve that, it seems like a good trade. Eventually all the broken stuff will be fixed, right?
I think that*s the basic rationale. And maybe shave a few more seconds off boot time, but who boots much (or cares)? My servers and desktops remain on, and my laptops are usually on, suspended, or hibernated. I would prefer a reliable and well-understood boot system like the one we have.
My primary concern is that the systemd cabal is going to be pushing it as a dependency wherever possible, but we*ll deal with that if it happens. But if any major distributions do actually release using systemd, the world will be stuck with it forever. If that*s the case, I hope it turns out to be a good idea...
3.
For now, Slackware isn*t using it but I have heard nothing about a commitment not to use it.
Hasn*t Slackware made a commitment to not use PAM? You can build systemd without PAM IIRC (useful for embedded systems), but there*s many desktop-related features relying on it. But then, they probably never used consolekit, so they won*t need logind either.
Anyway, due to Slackware*s conservative attitude, I*d bet on them not using systemd in the future.
4.Gentoo is pretty focused on OpenRC.
5.Chrome OS, if that counts it still uses upstart.