我整理的一部分MK神棍词汇解释
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这贴本来是MK在论坛发的用来集中解释他所造出来的词的,但我看了下来发现MK真正解释了的其实并没有几个,有些则是别人解释MK认可的。。。另外在这里Sheograth也是一位设计组成员,他和MK在这里谈到了Arkay的问题
我发一下自己的整理,但是官方论坛的原网页估计已经没了,TIL上的这份保留版看着眼睛疼,或许有很多遗漏的,欢迎补充
2013年05月14日 02点05分 1
吧务
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嗯Sheo这里就是Ted Petersson www
2013年05月14日 02点05分 2
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Enantiomorph:
I found this in a really, really weird dictionary, which chose to explain it as "a merged dichotomy". In TES, the Enantiomorph is most commonly used to refer to the really, really weird mythic figure of Arctus-who-is-Septim. I'll allow others to play with this until I get back to it, as there's some good takes that certain loremasters have on the Enantiomorph.
Dreamsleeve:
Stolen from a neat word Ken made up for Battlespire. The dreamsleeve is a conduit for sending special transmissions. Used by weirdo magicians and Imperial clerks, mainly. Kinda like myspace...only to reach it one must have at least part of their brain constantly meditating, because one aspect of the conduit is that it is able to carry images of concepts not yet "real".
Mythopoeic:
Could you show me where this was used? (Used by Yagrum Bagarn in Morrowind)
As in "mythopoeic enchantments" which is what Kagrenac was supposedly doing with the tools. Would appear to mean, "shaping reality by means of altering archetypes and myth."
红字是坛友的解释
Hmmm. So you're saying that by ringing the bell of an established archetype, and changing its tune, that you could either A) use that power and maybe B ) transform that power. In the case of The Hanged Man, what would you gain in A? What motivation for B?
Or just continue.
Somehow I feel like this will spiral into a True History of the Disappearance, or The Numidium Was Really a Walking Wind-Chime.
Which would rule.
I was mixing my metaphors, which is a dangerous thing to do in mythopoeic enchanting.
The second bit refers to what Vivec and the Trib. did with the tools. They walloped the heart with it, creating a repeat of the mythic event of Lorkhan's heart being ripped out. Then they used Keening to turn the agony into a tone they could bathe in. Thus, Keening, wailing or suffering. The wraithguard was used to shield the user from the untransmuted... whateveryoucall raw mythic energy. You're the word dude, make something up.
First bit refers to the Numidium, which is what Kagrenac was trying to do before the Tribunal interrupted him. We know Kagrenac made the tools to create a mantella, a Crux of Transcendence. (For those who don't read the Tarot, the Hanged Man in Tarot symbolizes the Crux of Transcendence, suffering to gain transcendence: Jesus on the cross, Odin hanging from the tree to gain wisdom, etc.)
So, we know what the tools are like, and what the Tribunal did with them, and we know what the mantella is like, and more or less how Tiber Septim made it - he killed his best friend, reenacting the murder of Lorkhan by Akatosh, and shoved his best friend's soul (or his own, or both, since they were tied) into a fancy rock, and then he plugged it into the Numidium, or Divine Skin.
Where the Divine Skin itself came from, the wise can find in other places.
以下是Sheograth的解释
Hehehe. I love the mental image of Kagrenac already working on this stuff at age 8, an age when most Dwemer kids are just starting to build animunculi.
So more broadly, "mythopoeic" things work by symbolically reenacting certain patterns of myth, thereby (hopefully) obtaining the endpoint of the myth? So what you'd have to do is find a myth about whatever it is you want to have happen, then get some good symbols and play-act the myth... probably tones come into it too, just because.
And with powerful enough symbols and manipulation, it might even be possible to *change* the patterns of myth, or create a new mythic structure. Which could have various interesting uses...
Arenotelicon:
(Vivec: "Arenotelicon." - Nu-Hatta from the Sphinxmoth Inquiry Tree)
Pretty easy: "a creature that alternates between male and female."
Why not just "phase-shifting tranny"? Well, because sometimes the old words are best, as they ring with implied importance and are all long and spooky-looking.
In a more ES-Nu-Hatta sense (meaning Tamrielic theosophy): "The ultimate in all the marriages between."
The Digital House and the digitals from the Loveletter from the Fifth Era:
"Belief-engines, properly called the "Auxiliary Semi-Shockpoint Nilgularity", provide energy for short dream-sleeve jumps in case a Vehkship's main ego is damaged, allowing the C0DA Paravant to potentially get to the safety of a voidyard orbital.
"By creating the equivalent of an Nu-class Mnemolic, shrinking it instantaneously via a creatia tesseract array, and then projecting the resulting moth-talk well to a nil-point just outside the ego's hull, an ASSN can slingshot the Paravant into era-streams without the needed energies of nearby aetheric bodies or shockpoint application.
"The ASSN is strictly Last Ditch technology, however. It's often deemed as too dangerous for its own good, because it works on the rarified principles of Phynaster's Inversion, a set of mathematics that doesn't exist in our own dimension. Vehkships have vanished in nil-space trying to make an ASSN jump—indeed, the celestial irregularity known as the M4bV Legerity, in which the C0DA Oblivion Vanquisher appears and implodes in perpetuity, is the belief system's most famous cautionary tale."
Paleonumerology:
The study of old numbers... but I'm not sure of the context. Numerology of ancient civilizations? Numbers that no longer exist?
Orichalc Tower:
Good digging. Orichalc Tower was indeed in Yokuda. Whether or not it contributed to the sinking of the land isn't for me to say, but the Yoku and the Left-Handed Elves certainly did fight a lot, so you can be sure the Tower had a part to play in their wargames.
Orichalc the name comes from Plato's description of Atlantis, the Most Famousest of Sinking Continents. It was therefore too fun not to add some orichalc into Yokuda's background.
Plus it's just a neat-looking, neat-sounding word.
Mnemolic:
Mnemolic magic is related to the "Star Orphans", gods and heroes and demons that live between creations, which can include those reality-bending burps known as Dragon Breaks. Think of them as the all-stars between kalpas, if that helps. (That probably doesn't help at all, really.)
What's up with the Blue Star itself? That's a good little hidden bit that I don't want to ruin. Someone go find it.
"pawn of the Aggregate":
Aggregate is, of course, a real word, meaning "sum" or "total." But you knew that already...and it seems "context in which this word is used" is more popular here than "what the **** does this mean at all".
So, the Sharmat was a pawn of some as yet undisclosed "total": is Nu-hatta talking about the Tribunal (hmm, maybe, but pawn in far different than Enemy)? the Enantiomorph (naw, it ain't this one)? the Gods? the Lords of Misrule?
Too bad our moth boy didn't tell us which Aggregate. He was probably sending out a dream-sleeve somnomnibus of abnegaurbic memospheres or some sh*it.
Empire Actual:
Emperor
Abnegaurbic:
I don't know Latin, but it sounds like it's related to "abnegation" -- "abneg-Aurbic" in this case. Maybe it signifies "the Aldmer creed of rejecting the Aurbis".
More or less (and more *more* than less) correct.
Creatia:
Is leaking Creatia what the Daedra use to build their... buildy stuff... in Oblivion? Which is otherwise Void?
Pretty much. Leaky creatia, otherwise called "kaleidocules".
Crap. I'm not supposed to be making up new words.
2013年05月14日 03点05分 3
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原帖里面其他人还问了很多合成词一类的词汇。。。但MK后来基本都没有回应了
2013年05月14日 03点05分 4
MK自己在首楼里提到的dracochrysalis和impossipoint和mananaut都没解释,或许在别的帖子里已经说过了?
2013年05月14日 03点05分
回复 智障超人 :其实这仨词需要具体解释么……
2013年05月14日 03点05分
回复 nihilee :需要
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2013年05月14日 04点05分
回复 智障超人 :dracochrysalis的解释就在Nu-Mantia Intercept里面啊,Impossipoint应该也在吧
2013年05月14日 04点05分
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Emperor是皇帝的意思 king是国王的意思 我在魔都 帝国的守卫总和我说 Emperor,king and justice这是为什么 Emporor和king有啥区别啊?
2013年05月14日 03点05分 5
[揉脸]魔都??
2013年05月14日 03点05分
回复 智障超人 :Mounhold是这么写不 就是审判庭资料片 刚我趁领导不在 和那个皇帝的哑巴侍卫打了一架 嘿嘿嘿
2013年05月14日 03点05分
回复 lux1983214 :哦~~~这里的king指的应该是helseth,也就是晨风的王,而不是皇帝。。。一般来说皇帝>王,就像5代帝国皇帝>天际至高王一样
2013年05月14日 03点05分
回复 智障超人 :3代晨风的时候 Emporor是谁呢?5代黑暗兄弟会 刺杀的是Emporor?那么5代中天际的king是哪位啊?那个女王?
2013年05月14日 03点05分
吧务
level 15
Dreamsleeve
Kinda like myspace...only to reach it one must have at least part of their brain constantly meditating, because one aspect of the conduit is that it is able to carry images of concepts not yet "real".
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这里说的 “not yet real”应该是记忆的梦境化,梦境化意味“非现实”,换言之应该多少有些阴影的影响?所以索塔·希尔去和迪德拉君主谈判进入的是“梦窟”。不过我们目前的问题是,梦管-湮灭的非现实和阴影的非现实是差不多的还是代表了完全不同的意义。
(可能以及包括维耶米娜到底是干啥的)
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mythopoeic
所有的Enantiomorph都是mythopoeic
同理可以说所有的龙破全都是Dawnpoeic了
若是如此,那么所谓Dawn Magic到底是什么
实际上我们目前见到的所有XX Magic都涉及“非现实操作”。Shadow Magic:操作线性时间轴条件下的非现实投影;Mnemolic Magic:操作非线性时间轴条件下的全体现实记录;Dawn Magic:?
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Digital House
Belief-engines, properly called the "Auxiliary Semi-Shockpoint Nilgularity", provide energy for short dream-sleeve jumps in case a Vehkship's main ego is damaged, allowing the C0DA Paravant to potentially get to the safety of a voidyard orbital.
这个看着眼熟不?想想KINMUNE
"By creating the equivalent of an Nu-class Mnemolic...
实际上时间/空间旅行的本质是意识的移动,所以梦管是最佳媒介。
参考量子通信:意识的同一是纠缠态
2013年05月14日 09点05分 6
digital house感觉太装X了,各种不知所云啊
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2013年05月14日 09点05分
回复 智障超人 :其实Digital House就是虚拟人格。所以其实凡人做梦的原理是什么啊www
2013年05月14日 09点05分
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我还是很迷糊。。。情书里面的digitals究竟说的是以前的事被记录下来并传到了梦管成为数码信息,还是指他们使用digital house把意识穿越回去观察过去发生的事???
2013年05月14日 09点05分
回复 nihilee :咦,但是后面的信息不是应该是给第三纪元末第四纪元初的人的吗,"I tell you now, brothers and sisters of the coming 4th",是这些信息传到了第五纪元然后又从第五纪元传回去??太卧槽了吧
2013年05月14日 10点05分
吧务
level 15
这里
2013年05月14日 11点05分 7
好吧,原来在主页。。。我的收藏夹是直接到图书馆公会的。。。
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2013年05月14日 11点05分
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