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serpentza视频里我不赞同的观点-吃狗肉 serpentza在一个视频里说到了吃狗肉的话题,我是不同意他的观点的,但去过欧美的朋友应该知道当地的主流价值观就是吃狗是不道德的。这听起来很难以置信而且很虚伪,但这就像我们相信共产主义一定会实现一样,都是从小树立起来的观念,大概是属于信仰的范畴。碰到这种不同价值观的差异我更倾向于通过对话解决,你碰到不同的观点就让对方住口,打一顿赶走就能改变对方的观点吗?这只能给对方和吃瓜群众留下你思维能力不足的印象。当然如果有人认为我这就是崇洋媚外也无所谓,你们才是最在乎外国人是怎么想的那群人吧 吃狗肉的话题我跟不只一个人谈起过, 比如和几年前的这个室友: 一次我和室友在看电视,有条短新闻里提到了玉林狗肉节,室友看了之后产生了身体不适,于是有了下面的对话。因为这件事已经过去了很长时间,具体的字句肯定有出入,但大意都在下面了。 Housemate: Grr! That’s gross! 室友:好恶心! Me:Yum yum 我:好吃 Housemate: !!? You eat dogs? That’s disgusting! 室友:你吃狗肉?!好恶心! Me: You did too. Remember what I cooked yesterday? That was dog meat. I’m sure you said it was juicy and lovely. Were you lying? 我:你也吃了呀,记得我昨天做的啥吗,你尝了之后直说鲜嫩多汁呢,难道你是骗人的? Housemate(laughed knowing my characteristic): You are bluffing. I’m pretty sure you said it was beef brisket. 室友:(笑了,)你丫逗我呢,你都告诉我你做的是牛腩了 Me: Yeah. It was a special kind of beef brisket. It was called d-o-o-o-g meat. 我:没错啦, 这是一种特殊的牛腩。它的名字叫狗肉 Housemate: Even if it was dog meat, where did you get it? 室友:别扯了,你才弄不到狗肉呢 Me: Have you seen Oscar today (Oscar was her dog)? 我:你今天看到奥斯卡了吗(奥斯卡是她的狗) Housemate(Looked at me in disbelief): Leave my Oscar alone 室友(一脸的难以置信):别碰我的奥斯卡 Me(maybe I went a bit overboard): Nooo I’m joking. I love Oscar. I will never hurt Oscar and you know that 我(玩笑好像有点开过了):我是开玩笑了,你知道我也很喜欢奥斯卡的。我是绝对不会伤害他的 Housemate: (Looked relieved and had a sip of drink) 室友:(松了口气,喝了口水) Me: I’m not sure if I love our neighbour’s dog as much though 我:但是邻居家的狗就没这么好运了 Housemate: (spurt out the drink) 室友:(把水喷了出来) Me:Come on you hate that stupid dog too. You told me in multiple occasions that you wanted to strangle that thing (That dog could bark hours on end) 我:你不也讨厌那只狗吗?听你说要掐死它说了好几次了(隔壁的死狗老是没事叫个不停) Housemate: I know you are joking 室友:我知道你是开玩笑的 Me: Oh yes I am 我:没错 Housemate: It’s not funny. How could anyone eat dogs? 室友:一点都不好笑,怎么会有人吃狗? Me: Why not? It’s just protein. Another source of protein. You have no problems of eating pork and beef. Why is dog so special? 我:怎么就不能啦,不都是蛋白质吗,你不也吃猪肉牛肉吗?狗怎么就这么特别呢 Housemate: Because they are human’s best friends! Would you eat you friends? 室友:因为他们是人类最好的朋友,你吃朋友啊 Me: Maybe,if I’m really hungry。 (She laughed) To be honest I have never tried dog meat in my life. But for a completely opposite reason. 我:饿极了可能会吧(她笑)。我其实还真没吃过狗肉,但原因和你不一样 Housemate: What’s was it? 室友:什么原因? Me: My mother hates dogs. I was brought up believing dogs are filthy creatures. They eat faeces. They bite people and spread diseases like rabies. 我:我妈不喜欢狗,她说狗是肮脏的动物,不光吃屎还咬人,还传播狂犬病 Housemate: There is no rabies here 室友:这里没有狂犬病 Me: Maybe not here. But they eat poo. Don’t they? 我:这里可能的确没有,但说它们吃屎不冤吧(其实我应该问:那就是可以吃狗了?但脑子没转过来) Housemate: But dogs are clever. They make great companion. 室友:但狗很聪明,是很好的伙伴 Me: But they have never been part of my family, because of my mom, you know. You shouldn’t have any problem of me eating dogs, should you? 我:它们可从没成为过我的伙伴,因为娘亲不让养狗。这样的话我吃狗你应该没问题吧 Housemate: I guess you could if you really want to. I really hate the idea of eating dogs. It’s just wrong. 室友:也许吧,如果你真那么想吃的话。我就是觉得吃狗是不对的 Me: So you will under no circumstances eat dogs? 我:所以不管发生什么事你都不会吃狗了? Housemate: Absolutely not! 室友:绝对不会! Me: How about this: your plane crushed on a dessert island. All that left alive were you and a dog. You were almost starving to death. Would you eat the dog? 我:如果飞机迫降在荒岛上,活下来的只有你和一只狗,你快饿死了,你吃狗不? Housemate: No. I would rather die. 室友:我宁可饿死 Me: How about we change the scenario a little bit. Apart from you and the dog, your 5 year old toddler were there to. And she was starving. If you don’t feed her she may not be able to last until the next morning. What will you do then? 我:我把条件变一变,如果你5岁的女儿也活了下来而且饿的都快看不到明天的太阳了, 你会怎么做? Housemate (Very reluctantly): I guess I have to feed the kid. 室友:(非常不情愿的)我必须要喂这个孩子(狗肉) Me: This has been a rich country for so long and people here have forgotten the feeling of being hungry. You have the luxury of having pets and treating them as part of your family. But this does not apply to people in many countries. And you talked about people eating dogs in such a way like they are morally wrong. 我:这个国家富了太久了,国民都忘了挨饿是什么滋味了,你们不光可以喂饱自己也可以有自己的宠物,但不是所有国家都是这样的,而你谈起来好像吃狗是不道德似的 Housemate: You have a very good point. Is China still so poor? 室友:不错的观点。中国现在还是这么穷吗 Me: Most people in China don’t need to worry about food any more. But as late as just 30 years ago a lot of people were still struggling to feed their families. Genarations of people lived through poverty and was brought up eating pretty much anything available to them. 我:现在大多数人倒是吃穿不愁了,但直到30年前还有很多人吃不饱饭呢,几代人都成长在不管什么东西拿起来就得吃的时代 Housemate: I see 室友:嗯 Me:And years ago most people don’t believe and never thought dogs could be part of the family. Dogs in general were considered a filthy creature and many swear words are built around dogs. They have always been a potential meat source. One of the many meat sources. It has never been considered as unethical to eat dogs in China. On the other hand, for thousands of years it was indeed considered unethical to eat cows in China until recent years 我: 而且很多年之前中国人就想到过狗居然还能是家庭成员, 狗在中国就是被认为是一种肮脏的生物,好多骂人的话都是跟狗有关的。狗一直就是一种肉食的来源. 在中国吃狗从来就不是不道德的, 但直到几十年前吃牛反而是不道德的 Housemate:Wow that interesting to know Me:Because cows work their asses off in the field and help people to feed their families. What do dogs do? Being needy? 我:因为牛努力干活帮助主人养活家人。狗呢?求关注? Housemate:...True Me: Most people don’t eat dogs in China anyway. You can find places to eat dog meat in pretty much every city but it is not a main source of meat. It’s just a delicacy. Like rabbit meat here. But to be fair in some parts of China dog meat is one of the main meat sources. Like in the areas near Korean boarder and some areas in south China. I have never tried dog meat in my life and probably never will. But I don’t see any problem of other people eating dogs. 我:大多数的中国人是不吃狗肉的, 哪个城市都有个把狗肉店, 但狗肉就是吃个新鲜,没几个人天天吃。就像这边的兔子肉一样。当然也有例外,比如靠近朝鲜边界的地方和南方的有些地方。但我虽然自己不吃狗肉,我也不觉得别人吃狗肉有什么问题 大概就是以上内容,反正从那之后如果有其他人提起中国人吃狗肉的问题我室友都会提到如果她孩子快饿死了她也是会给孩子吃狗肉的,这是成功的例子,但当然不是所有人都是可以用语言交涉的,这点在哪个国家都是一样的
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