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xruti定义的抵触及其说明 最近翻译时发现了一个具备两个相互抵触的定义版本的词:xruti 版本一: x1 (agent) returns to origin/earlier state x2 from x3; x1 moves/gives back to x2 from x3. x1 goes back/reverts/retreats; (x2 may be a location or a person or an event/situation; the latter may also be expressed with {krefu} or {rapli} and a causative like {rinka}/{rikygau}). See also {benji}, {krefu}, {rapli}, {rinka}. For 'return something to something use {xrugau}. Official definition of {xruti} is 'x1 (agent) returns x2 to origin/earlier state x3 from x4; x1 moves/gives x2 back to x3 from x4.' 版本二: x1 (agent) returns x2 to origin/earlier state x3 from x4; x1 moves/gives x2 back to x3 from x4. x2 goes back/reverts/Retreats. to x3 (= se'ixru for agent self-returning to a previous location/situation: renumber places in the lujvo); (x3 may be a location or a person or an event/situation; the latter may also be expressed with krefu or rapli and a causative like rinka/rikygau). See also benji, krefu, rapli, rinka. 其中版本二为官方版本,但其x2撤回x3(x2 goes back/reverts/Retreats. to x3 (= se'ixru for agent self-returning to a previous location/situation: renumber places in the lujvo);)直接忽略可能是不完善的,(我觉得省略x1似乎也无妨);版本一是Gleki Arxokuna提出的改进方案,我不很清楚其是否得到广泛认可。我在翻译时将使用官方版本,同时在备注中添加了相关说明。特此说明。 大家可以议论议论。
一些有用的逻辑语学习网站 转自facebook群lojban 原文链接:http://tieba.baidu.com/mo/q/checkurl?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2Flojban%2F&urlrefer=89122451560b16bdb0961c228b9be956 需翻墙 This is for people learning, speaking, or interested in lojban. Here are the links for learning Lojban. ✔ http://tieba.baidu.com/mo/q/checkurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lojban.org%2Ftiki%2F&urlrefer=4d0ac4dc80a34adbf7e605713a6a8895wavelessonscontinued - is a popular textbook ✔ http://tieba.baidu.com/mo/q/checkurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdag.github.com%2Fcll%2F&urlrefer=67961ea1446adeaa60f92284c4a39a1b - is the full grammar ... ✔ http://tieba.baidu.com/mo/q/checkurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvlasisku.lojban.org%2F&urlrefer=a3db1881b5e201002c3cd8e25060d865 - is the dictionary ✔ http://tieba.baidu.com/mo/q/checkurl?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2F&urlrefer=dc78451f49a32e0919703f50cf0b97b8slovlacukt/file-cabinet - is an alternative offline dictionary ✔ http://tieba.baidu.com/mo/q/checkurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.memrise.com%2F&urlrefer=3e534a07dc103a86df01664ff0c75e97courses/english/lojban/ - is a great place where you can learn lojban words online. Just register on that website, try several courses and use the one that you like most ✔ http://tieba.baidu.com/mo/q/checkurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Flojban.org%2Fjboski&urlrefer=f2bf333be001fb6f3390cbc7d60cc565 - automatic grammar check of what you write in Lojban (which is unique among all languages!) with English glossing (i.e. translation). ✔ http://tieba.baidu.com/mo/q/checkurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcamxes.lojban.org%2F&urlrefer=314de8cc5fcd959f5bf981114c36bdb8 - Even better than the previous item. But without glossing. ✔ http://tieba.baidu.com/mo/q/checkurl?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2F&urlrefer=bcfffd884a10786473041512dc862387forum/#!forum/lojban-beginners - a community. This is where you can ask any questions (although, this facebook group is also fine). ✔ http://tieba.baidu.com/mo/q/checkurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebchat.freenode.net%2F&urlrefer=21a0883343e56b7b90fe4595a6223795?channels=ckule%2Cjbosnu%2Cjbopre%2Clojban is a chat where you can make friends and ask for help for learning lojban (in # ckule section).
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